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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by bluefirebrand »

refurb wrote: post #159
ropetin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I 100% do not support violence against Sam Altman, or anyone else for that matter, what are people without billions of dollars and without the ear of the president supposed to do to affect change in this modern, post-capitalist hellscape? And I am genuinely interested in ideas that people think will work, not just trying to be combative.

Organize, petition your representative and vote. The people saying it doesn’t work are the same people who can’t must the effort to even contact their representative. I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill . That bill was brought to…

> I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill. That bill was brought to the floor for a vote and passed. Until you’ve done that, dont complain the system doesn’t work

This is a sign of the system not working. A well connected professor, with plenty of free time to form an organization and go to Washington to talk to his rep

Might as well be an industry lobbyist.

Could a worker from Walmart do the same thing? In theory sure. In practice unlikely, for any number of reasons. Not least because people are unlikely to take a Wal Mart worker seriously enough to join their organization.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by mbgerring »

tavavex wrote: post #167
avaer wrote: post #7

In case someone reading this is thinking similar thoughts: there's no version of reality where doing this will solve any problem. Don't.

To me it increasingly seems like there's no version of reality where doing anything will solve the problem, unless you're one of the special few people who can influence the world. The violence is a sign of that. Average people don't do things like these, but when they start feeling helpless, the most unstable people of that society that don't have anything to lose will start acting more erratically. If there's no pr…

We invented something called “democracy” to fix this, and then we allowed enough wealth to accumulate that the wealthy just bought it and nerfed it.

We went through a cycle like this once before in U.S. history, and the amount of violence it took to correct the overreach of organized money was not 0.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by [deleted] »

mancerayder wrote: post #170
avaer wrote: post #7

In case someone reading this is thinking similar thoughts: there's no version of reality where doing this will solve any problem. Don't.

The type of person who posts here is unlikely to be the type of criminal that does that sort of thing. The virtue signaling is well-noted - good to have good citizens on here with strongly-worded top posts that get upvoted to the top. I'm just waiting for dang, et. al to fix our thread voting system as it's a little too Reddity around here these last days.

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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by collingreen »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #125
lesuorac wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tyranny of a bunch of rich white men having to pay taxes lol. There's a reason the founding fathers all had slaves; they weren't the common folk.

>There's a reason the founding fathers all had slaves; they weren't the common folk. Ah, yes. All Slaveholders. I once toured John Adam's former plantation. It's expansive. Really puts Monticello to shame. (the joke here being that John Adams was a practicing lawyer in state that didn't even have slavery).

Super good joke.

Since your point seems to be that not all the founding fathers parent was referring to were actually slave owners do you have a claim for a rough ratio? I think that would be interesting and would be a more informative thing regardless of where on the scale it lands from "everybody but Adams" all the way up to "only a big names like Washington, Jefferson".

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by mbgerring »

refurb wrote: post #159
ropetin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I 100% do not support violence against Sam Altman, or anyone else for that matter, what are people without billions of dollars and without the ear of the president supposed to do to affect change in this modern, post-capitalist hellscape? And I am genuinely interested in ideas that people think will work, not just trying to be combative.

Organize, petition your representative and vote. The people saying it doesn’t work are the same people who can’t must the effort to even contact their representative. I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill . That bill was brought to…

I have worked on electoral and initiative campaigns, and traveled thousands of miles to knock on doors. I’ve donated money. I’ve called my congresspeople. I’ve gone to and spoken at public meetings. I’ve protested, been tear gassed, beaten, and thrown in jail. I’ve been doing all of this continuously for about 20 years. I can tell you, from extensive experience going through the official channels, that the formal mechanisms of our democracy are fundamentally broken. We need to seriously face this problem and fix it, or things are just going to keep getting worse.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by saligne »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #181
refurb wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Organize, petition your representative and vote. The people saying it doesn’t work are the same people who can’t must the effort to even contact their representative. I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill . That bill was brought to…

> I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill. That bill was brought to the floor for a vote and passed. Until you’ve done that, dont complain the system doesn’t work This is a sign of the system not working. A well connected professor, w…

And because workers at the bottom with no rights and no money are fired as soon as they try to organize anything beyond their continued immiseration

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by saligne »

samrus wrote: post #89
granzymes wrote: post #10

Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

I get the sentiment but this is disengenuous. Political violence built this democracy

And sustains this "democracy"

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by mbgerring »

granzymes wrote: post #10

Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

Political violence is wielded against dissidents in the United States constantly. Another way to think of this is that a government that resorts to political violence against its own citizens is not a democracy.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by saligne »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12
echelon wrote: post #5

I have a few predictions for this year: 1. Violent attacks against AI CEOs, researchers, and engineers is going to begin. This is due to widespread negative press that AI receives and as well as a pervasive feeling of economic uncertainty and doom in the population. Some of this being caused by the current administration's leadership, but much of it attributed to AI taking jobs and destroying opportunity. 2. Violent…

If violent attacks start metastasizing, it legitimately justifies a police crackdown. Most of the population will be for that. The pro-Palestinian activists set their cause back a year by overplaying their hands in Columbia at the start of the war. If we want to ensure zero AI legislation for the next 2 years, I couldn’t think of a better way to ensure that than to start potting randos in the streets.

Victim blaming and pearl clutching is not a substantial justification for the status quo

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by mbgerring »

maplethorpe wrote: post #136

I feel like Altman's PR team is dropping the ball. We somehow need to get the word out that AI tools will benefit all of humanity, not detract from it.

idk, maybe Altman should stop giving interviews talking about how he’s going to get rich making everyone’s job obsolete. Just a thought! Any PR firms hiring?
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