It isn't an outage it is an intentional block. Iranian ISPs actually stop announcing all IPv4 prefixes into BGP.
Internet outage in Iran reaches 1,008 hours
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t see any alternative angle though. Nobody thinks the IRGC is doing this for fun.
> I don’t see any alternative angle though I see it, and hadn't fully considered it. Turning off the Internet has more utility than just suppressing the populaces ability to communicate, it also blackholes that compromised mail server used to track the movement of political leaders, any online drop-boxes/Telegram/Whatsapp channels used by cultivated informants/spies are now out of order.
Ehhh I suppose but I think that’s a weak point. The purpose of shutting down the internet is undeniably to prevent the people from coordinating rebellion and the help control the narrative of the war.
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#103and during that time those people waging war against Iran, murdered one Irainian child every 30 minuits, not counting the other children murdered by the genociders in Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. predictable down vote but listen up, Iran has made a tactical move in this, but the implication is that they, like Afganistan are consideriing a strategic move, and many others are watching. more down voting, which is an e…
- "Everyone is crazy and the way you can tell they are crazy is to see if they tell me I am wrong". - "You are wrong! Everyone is not crazy" - "You see? I told you. Everyone is crazy"
you made me smile, because everyone IS crazy, but many of them are still decent and kind and can see there own crazy enough to make room in the world for others crazyness. and then there are the those who espouse the madness of a genocidal cultic insanity, or perhaps even more distubing, play a cunning game of distraction and apology for murder
and hate
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#104I'm an Iranian American. There is no Internet. Only people who work for the government have limited Internet. We can't call phone numbers in Iran. They can call our phone in the US (they will get a sms or call shortly after ending the call saying that we the government was monitoring the conversation) and these calls are very expensive for them. This situation is not sustainable. There are many businesses in Iran that rely on Internet. Millions of Iranian live outside of the country and haven't been able to talk to their family and friends. Not sure how long will this internet blockade will continue.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unpopularity won't overthrow a government that is willing to drown every protest in blood.
You think the French monarchy was overthrown because they didn't try hard enough? It's blood against blood, but it's quite rare for people to rise up while there's an external enemy. Russia 1917 is the only example I can think of?
Russia had two revolutions in 1917. In the first one, pretty much everyone who mattered was unhappy with the regime. After some clashes between protesters and internal security forces, the emperor abdicated. A provisional government formed by established politicians took control, but it had to share power with workers' councils. The country became fragmented.
The provisional government was center-left, the army was mostly controlled by the right, and the workers' councils leaned towards revolutionary left. The right wanted to use the army to arrest Bolshevik leaders. The government declined, fearing a military coup. The right saw the government siding with the left and made an actual coup attempt. The government had to rely on the workers' councils to stop it. Which then emboldened the Bolsheviks to stage a revolution of their own a bit later.
But because the right was definitely not on board this time, the second revolution was only partially successful. Instead of a controlled regime change, the Bolsheviks got a civil war that lasted five years and killed millions.
Re: Internet outage in Iran reaches 1,008 hours
#106Apparently there have been IRGC and basij curfew patrols shooting at buildings / windows of people who sing or shout anti regime songs and slogans. Apparently they are also (at least in some cases) dressing as women to avoid airstrikes. There has been very little photage and info coming out of Iran though. I still believe the Iranian government is more afraid of it's people than of the US and Israel - the US and Isra…
This is just spreading rumors. You have to do better than "apparently".
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#107Looking at it from an alternative angle, the Iranians are not stupid. They know leaving the internet online would be beneficial for their adversaries, perhaps especially as Israel is one of them, and Israel's use of cyber is no secret. So by killing the internet, they have an instant air-gap firewall. Making the most of the levers they have fighting asymmetric warfare.
Yep, there is no country in the world where the elites wouldn't do similar things in this situation (an existential war).
It doesn't matter what your constitution says, western countries have readily adopted brutal censorship during serious wars virtually every time.
Failing to do so simply allows hostile foreign powers free reign in the information space domestically and increases the chance you lose
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#108I'm an Iranian American. There is no Internet. Only people who work for the government have limited Internet. We can't call phone numbers in Iran. They can call our phone in the US (they will get a sms or call shortly after ending the call saying that we the government was monitoring the conversation) and these calls are very expensive for them. This situation is not sustainable. There are many businesses in Iran tha…
The Iranian regieme shot (and I can only assume continues to shoot) citizens at a large scale, so I doubt small businesses collapsing or people being unable to talk to family and friends is what's going to make them re-enable the internet, which will also make it was easier for citizens to organize and overthrow the regieme.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's put it this way: Have you seen someone's brain on the sidewalk lately? No? Lost a loved one / a friend / a classmate? Perhaps when people see this (as I have) they find more favorable views of the aerial bombing campaign. For reference, it has been verfied [~] that the regime killed ~220 students just in the recent uprisings of this January. That's a whole school full of students, all under-18. And then you hav…
> No? Lost a loved one / a friend / a classmate? Perhaps when people see this (as I have) Sorry to hear that. Are you currently in Iran now? Or have contact with people in Iran?
I do live in Iran.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t see any alternative angle though. Nobody thinks the IRGC is doing this for fun.
> I don’t see any alternative angle though I see it, and hadn't fully considered it. Turning off the Internet has more utility than just suppressing the populaces ability to communicate, it also blackholes that compromised mail server used to track the movement of political leaders, any online drop-boxes/Telegram/Whatsapp channels used by cultivated informants/spies are now out of order.
From my point of view, they can't even "just turn on the Internet", even if they wanted.
We know from the Ukraine side that "keeping the internet on" requires a whole bunch of personal sacrifice, and a lot of "reasonably recent" electronic equipment and infrastructure that Iran can't simply buy or repair right now.