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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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We are taking it seriously, and are continuing to investigate. We are not trusting the metrics.

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It's incredible that Boris is here on HN being open and sharing an issue they don't fully understand yet, and offering a possible workaround. CTFO.

Thank you Boris.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Man, expecting the minimal from companies who are supposed to deliver a pro... there is no SLA for any this, so you are right. Also, why is there no SLA?

Because this is ultimately a beta service. The whole industry is.

Wait, where is there a 'beta' tag to something that they are charging real money for? Why is this software any different than any other software and we should completely give away our rights as a consumer to ensure what we pay for is delivered?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

I don't want a nudge. I want a clear RED WARNING with "You've gone away from your computer a bit too long and chatted too much at the coffee machine. You're better off starting a new context!"

Why is nobody even asking why that should be an issue? No other text editor shits the bed that way. The whole point of the computer is that it patiently waits for my input.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

How can we turn of 1m context? I don't find it has ever helped.

He mentioned this in his original comment:

"CLAUDE_CODE_AUTO_COMPACT_WINDOW=400000"

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

I wish people would pay more attention to: * Anthropic is in some way trying to run a business (not a charity) and at least (eventually?) make money and not subsidize usage forever * "What a steal/good deal" the $100-$200/mo plans are compared to if they had to pay for raw API usage and less on "how dare you reserve the right to tweak the generous usage patterns you open-ended-ly gave us, we are owed something!"

All those apply to OpenAI+Codex too, but they're far more generous with limits than Anthropic, and with granting fresh limits to apologize when they fuck up.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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That might be, but the argument was that poor cache utilization was costing Anthropic too much money in other harnesses. If cache is considered in rate limits, it doesn’t matter from a cost perspective, you’ll just hit your rate limits faster in other harnesses that don’t try to cache optimize.

There were two issues with some other 3p harnesses: 1. Poor cache utilization. I put up a few PRs to fix these in OpenClaw, but the problem is their users update to new versions very slowly, so the vast majority of requests continued to use cache inefficiently. 2. Spiky traffic. A number of these harnesses use un-jittered cron, straining services due to weird traffic shape. Same problem -- it's patched, but users upg…

How much jitter would you prefer, how many seconds / minutes out? I have some morning tasks that run while I'm asleep via claude -p, and it sounds like I'm slightly contributing to your spikes (presumably hourly and on quarter hours).

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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For me, iterating with Claude begins to degrade at 200k context used, by 350k it’s crossed-fingers time, by 500k it’s essentially useless. Starting a fresh context after 300k is usually the best move imho. I wonder if people are hitting a case where Claude becomes both dumb and increasingly more expensive, essentially a doom loop.

Roughly agreed. I'm a bit baffled when it seems like someone is having long conversations with multiple tasks and loads of add-ons. I generally have one or two iterations and then a new session.

I'm using another tool, not claude code, but I don't think that matters much.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#388

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Boris, is the KV cache TTL now reduced to 5 minutes from 1 hour?

I think this may be the biggest concern for people building tools on the API: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/46829

I would argue that KV caching is a net gain for Ant and a well-maintained cache is the biggest thing that can generate induced demand and a thriving third party ecosystem. https://safebots.ai/papers/KV.pdf

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#389
I've experienced none of the problems I've seen people complaining about here (5x plan), Claude has been working pretty well and I've been using it constantly without exhausting any of my quotas.

Yet, there must obviously be something different for so many people to be reporting these issues.

I feel for the Anthropic devs that have to deal with this, having to figure out what setup everyone has, what their usage patterns are to filter out the valid reports, and then also deal with the backlash from people that were just pulling obvious footguns like having a ton of skills/MCPs polluting their context window.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I don't want a nudge. I want a clear RED WARNING with "You've gone away from your computer a bit too long and chatted too much at the coffee machine. You're better off starting a new context!"

Why is nobody even asking why that should be an issue? No other text editor shits the bed that way. The whole point of the computer is that it patiently waits for my input.

let me put this way: not your ram, not your cache, not waiting patiently for your input.
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