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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Dang man, chill.

Man, expecting the minimal from companies who are supposed to deliver a pro... there is no SLA for any this, so you are right.

Also, why is there no SLA?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Hello Boris! How do I increase the 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent? I would love to be able to set that to, say, 4 hours. That gives me enough time to work on something, go teach a class, grab a snack, and come back and pick up where I left off.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

By the way, what are you using it for? I bought Max and Pro plans for Claue and Codex, developed a few apps with it, and after the initial excitation ("Wow I can get results 10x faster!") I felt the net sum is negative for me. In the end I didn't learn much except the current quirks of each model/tool, I didn't enjoy the whole process and the end result was not good enough for my standards. In the end I deleted all t…

For me it’s mostly useful in day-to-day coding, not “build an entire app and walk away” coding.

TDD was never really my natural style, but LLMs are great at generating the obvious test cases quickly. That lets me spend more of my attention on the edge cases, the invariants, and the parts that actually need judgment.

Frontend is another area where they help a lot. It’s not my strongest side, so pairing an LLM with shadcn/ui gets me to a decent, responsive UI much faster than I would on my own. Same with deployment and infra glue work across Cloudflare, AWS, Hetzner, and similar platforms.

I’m basically a generalist with stronger instincts in backend work, data modeling, and system design. So the value for me is that I can lean into those strengths and use LLMs to cover more ground in the areas where I’m weaker.

That said, I do think this only works if you’re using them as leverage, not as a substitute for taste or judgment.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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OpenAI (Codex) keeps on resetting the usage limits each time they fuck up... I have yet to see Anthropic doing the same. Sorry but this whole thing seems to be quite on purpose.

Can you clearly state what they messed up?

Not parent but I can guess from watching mostly from the sidelines.

They introduced a 1M context model semi-transparently without realizing the effects it would have, then refused to "make it right' to the customer which is a trait most people expect from a business when they spend money on it, specially in the US, and specially when the money spent is often in the thousands of dollars.

Unless anthropic has some secret sauce, I refuse to believe that their models perform anywhere near the same on >300k context sizes than they do on 100k. People don't realize but even a small drop in success rate becomes very noticeable if you're used to have near 100%, i.e. 99% -> 95% is more noticeable than 55% -> 50%.

I got my first claude sub last month (it expires in 4 days) and I've used it on some bigish projects with opencode, it went from compacting after 5-10 questions to just expanding the context window, I personally notice it deteriorating somewhere between 200-300k tokens and I either just fork a previous context or start a new one after that because at that size even compacting seems to generate subpar summaries. It currently no longer works with opencode so I can't attest to how it well it worked the past week or so.

If the 1M model introduction is at fault for this mass user perception that the models are getting worse, then it's anthropics fault for introducing confusion into the ecosystem. Even if there was zero problems introduced and the 1M model was perfect, if your response when the users complain is to blame it on the user, then don't expect the user will be happy. Nobody wants to hear "you're holding it wrong", but it seems that anthropic is trying to be apple of LLMs in all the wrong ways as well.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

Ultimately we'll find more efficient techniques and hardware and AI companies will end up owning Nuclear Power Stations and continue providing models capable of 10x of what they are now. Valuation have already reached point where these companies can run their nuclear power station, fund developement of new hardware and techniques and boost capabilities of their models by 10x

Too bad the models collapse because the lack of nee good training data.

How many companies will generate profit in the end, what will happen with all those power stations and data centers ?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I did my (out of the ordinary) taxes this year using agents, kind of as an experiment and kind of to save ~$750. Opus 4.6 max in CC, 5.4 xhigh in codex, and 3.1 high in antigravity. All on the $20/mo plans. I have a day job, a side business, actively trade shares options and futures, and have a few energy credit items. All were given the same copied folder containing all the needed documents to compose the return, an…

My taxes are rather complex, so I ran the same exercise to see if Claude agreed with my accountant. An automated second opinion, so to speak. Spent about 6 minutes analyzing all the PDFs and basically nailed it perfectly in one shot. My only point here is it sure seems the same activity / use case can have wildly different results across sessions or users. Customer support and product development in the age of non-de…

What does nailing mean when you ask whether it agreed with your accountant?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#337

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

> To improve this, we have shipped a few UX improvements (eg. to nudge you to /clear before continuing a long stale session)

Is this really an improvement? Shouldn't this be something you investigate before introducing 1M context?

What is a long stale session?

If that's not how Claude Code is intended to be used it might as well auto quit after a period of time. If not then if it's an acceptable use case users shouldn't change their behavior.

> People pulling in a large number of skills, or running many agents or background automations, which sometimes happens when using a large number of plugins.

If this was an issue there should have been a cap on it before the future was released and only increased once you were sure it is fine? What is "a large number"? Then how do we know what to do?

It feels like "AI" has improved speed but is in fact just cutting corners.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#338

I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

IMO we are currently in the ENIAC era of LLMs. Perhaps there will be a brief moment where things get worse, but long term the cost of these things will go way down.

Or we are in the early Netflix era where profit wasn’t as important as customer growth.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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How good are local LLMs at coding these days? Does anyone have any recommendations for how to get this setup? What would the minimum spend be for usable hardware? I am getting bored of having to plan my weekends around quota limit reset times...

The very best open models are maybe 3-12 months behind the frontier and are large enough that you need $10k+ of hardware to run them, and a lot more to run them performantly. ROI here is going to be deeply negative vs just using the same models via API or subscription.

You can run smaller models on much more modest hardware but they aren't yet useful for anything more than trivial coding tasks. Performance also really falls off a cliff the deeper you get into the context window, which is extra painful with thinking models in agentic use cases (lots of tokens generated).

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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It should be illegal to change the terms of the subscription mid-period. If you paid for the full year, you should get that plan for the whole year. I don't understand how it's ok for corporations to just change the terms mid-way, and we just have to accept it.

T&C?

I'm sure the T&C say something like "you're going to pay us money, and we reserve the right to give you something for it, or maybe nothing, and you should thank us for the privilege".
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