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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

> Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. My experience is limited only to CC, Gemini-cli, and Codex - not Aider yet, trying different combinations of different models. But, from my experience, CC puts everything else to shame. How does Cursor compare? Has anyone found an Aider combination that works as well?

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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Where can i learn about concepts like prompt cache misses? I don't have a mental model how that interacts with my context of 1M or 400k tokens... I can cargo cult follow instructions of course but help us understand if you can so we can intelligently adapt our behavior. Thanks.

The docs are a good place to start: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt...

Thanks. Just noting that those docs say the cache duration is 5 min and not 1 hour as stated in sibling comment:

> By default, the cache has a 5-minute lifetime. The cache is refreshed for no additional cost each time the cached content is used. > > If you find that 5 minutes is too short, Anthropic also offers a 1-hour cache duration at additional cost.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Codex has been better for me, but it's WAY too nitpicky/defensive. It always wants to make changes that add complexity and code to solve a problem that's impossible to happen (e.g. a multiprocess race condition on a daemon I only ever run one instance of).

You just convinced me to try it. Claude just copy pastes, does search and replace, zero abstractions and I'm the one that needs to think about the edge cases.

That's why I have Claude write the code and Codex review.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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How is any of what you wrote relevant? People aren't using Claude for the first time and hitting rate limits. They've been using Claude for months, at the very least, and they're hitting rate limits without significant changes to how they prompt. > People need to understand a few things: vague questions make the models roam endlessly “exploring” dead ends. > If people were considerably more willing to aggressively pr…

I think in this case, we probably have different experiences that shape how we see some things differently: I see many (very smart) people doing certain things that are not optimal (eg: copy-paste entire files instead of referencing them or tell claude at every message to "read CLAUDE.md and follow its instructions precisely") which can lead to a lot of token waste. If certain system prompts were tweaked internally or some models now read more files than before, keeping these "inneficient prompts" will make limits exhaust faster. Sub-agents or this new agent teams feature didn't exist until a few months ago: that alone eats A LOT of tokens, not intended for this pre-paid API usage, etc.

The ecosystem is evolving super quickly so, our own experiences and workflows must keep adapting with it to experiment, find limitations and arrive at the "tightest possible scope" that still allows you to get things done, because it is possible.

Another example: pre-paid monthly subscription aggregates usage towards web and Claude Code, for eg. So if you're checking for holiday itineraries over your lunch break, then decide to sit down and ask a team of agents to refactor a giant codebase with hundreds or thousands of files, context will be exhuasted quickly, etc, etc.

I see this "context economy" as a new way of managing your "mental models": every token counts, and every token must bear its weight for the task at hand, otherwise, I'm "wasting budget". I am also still learning how to operate in this new way of doing things, and, while there have been genuine issues with Claude Code, not every single issue that people encounter is an upstream problem.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Tangentially related to some of the issues a lot of people are facing, especially the ones where Claude keeps rechecking/scanning the same files over and over.

Ask claude code to give you all the memories it has about you in the codebase and prune them. There is a very high chance that you have memories in there which are contradicting each other and causing bad behavior. Auto-saved memories are a big source of pollution and need to be pruned regularly. I almost don't let it create any memories at all if I can help it.

Disclaimer: I'm also burning through usage very quickly now - though for different reasons. Less than 48 hours to exhaust an account, where it used to take me 5-6 days with the same workload.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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> Anthropic CAN change their limits and rates as they see fit, there’s never been hard promises or SLOs on these plans. No they can't. When I buy an annual subscription and prepay for the year, they can't just go "ok now you get one token a month" a day in. I bought the plan as I bought it. They can't change anything until the next renewal.

> I bought the plan as I bought it. They can't change anything until the next renewal. So no new models, no new features?

That's up to them. I'd be fine to not get access to new models or features, which is why I'm fine to pay $XX to buy some desktop software and use it forever as-is.

If they're selling me compute and bundling the features in, they better not go back on the compute I paid for.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

The /clear nudge isn't a solution though. Compacting or clearing just means rebuilding context until Claude is actually productive again. The cost comes either way. I get that 1M context windows cost more than the flat per-token price reflects, because attention scales with context length, but the answer to that is honest pricing or not offering it. Not annoying UX nudges. What’s actually indefensible is that Claude is already pushing users to shrink context via, I presume, system prompt. At maybe 25% fill:

  “This seems like a good opportunity to wrap it up and continue in a fresh context window.”
  “Want to continue in a fresh context window? We got a lot of work done and this next step seems to deserve a fresh start!”
If there’s a cost problem, fix the pricing or the architecture. But please stop the model and UI from badgering users into smaller context windows at every opportunity. That is not a solution, it’s service degradation dressed as a tooltip.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Pretty sure OpenCode is not subsidizing, and across Codex 5.x always on xhigh, Claude Opus 4.6 on high effort and a bunch of Chinese models, I only burned about $50 over the last month.

I don’t understand why people insist on these subscriptions and CC.

Fanboyism is a bit too hardcore at this point. Apple fanboys look extremely prudent compared to this behavior.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I had a weird experience at work last week where Claude was just thinking forever about tasks and not actually doing anything. It was unusable. The next day it was fine again.

That happens to me all the time. My current working theory is when their servers are hammered there is a queueing system that invisible to end-users.

i was having this issue yesterday. the same prompt would send it into a loop where it would appear to be doing nothing for 30+ minutes until i cancelled it. it would show 400 tokens used and thats it.

I tested on a previous version (2.1.68) and it still ran into this neverending loop BUT at least the token count kept steadily increasing.

So we are seeing 1. some sort of model degredation is my guess (why it can't break a thinking loop on some problems), as well as 2. a clear drop in thinking token UI transparency.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Can you explain why Opus 4.6 suddenly becomes dumb as a sack of potatoes, even if context is barely filled?

Can you explain why Opus 4.6 will be coming up with stupid solutions only to arrive at a good one when you mention it is trying to defraud you?

I have a feeling the model is playing dumb on purpose to make user spend more money.

This wasn't the case weeks ago when it actually working decently.

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