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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by kibwen »

fooster wrote: post #91
1970-01-01 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lights on = Ads in your output. EOY latest; they can't keep kicking the massive costs down the road.

Where is your evidence of this "massive cost"? Inference is massively profitable for both anthropic and openai. Training is not.

The evidence is that quotas exist, as seen here, and are low enough that people are hitting them regularly. When was the last time you hit your quota of Google searches? When was the last time you hit your quota of StackOverflow questions? When was the last time you hit your quota of YouTube videos? Any service will rate limit abuse, but if abuse is indistinguishable from regular use from the provider's perspective, that's not a good sign.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by throwup238 »

mixermachine wrote: post #96
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

I'm using the Codex Business subscription (about 30€) already for multiple months. Even there they cut back on the quota. A few months back it was hard for me to reach the limit. Now it is easier. Still, in comparison with Claude Code, the quota of Codex is a much better deal. However, they should not make it worse...

OpenAI had a promotion that gave everyone double their rate limits until April 2nd.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by gedy »

Cpoll wrote: post #46
hirako2000 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is that was the plan all along. Once people won't be able to think anymore and business expect the level of productivity witnessed before, will have no choice but cough up whatever providers bill us.

Didn't they move too soon then? People haven't forgotten how to tie their shoelaces (yet). And anyway, they'll just move to a different model; last holdout wins.

They probably don't have much choice with burn rates and investors, tbh. Market is shaky, etc.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by mstank »

cedws wrote: post #75
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

I had a weird experience at work last week where Claude was just thinking forever about tasks and not actually doing anything. It was unusable. The next day it was fine again.

That happens to me all the time. My current working theory is when their servers are hammered there is a queueing system that invisible to end-users.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

cjonas wrote: post #104
cedws wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a weird experience at work last week where Claude was just thinking forever about tasks and not actually doing anything. It was unusable. The next day it was fine again.

Ya I've had this experience more than a few times recently. I've heard people claiming they are serving quantized models during high loads, but it happens in cursor as well so I don't think it's specific to Anthropics subscription. It could be that the context window has just gotten into a state that confuses the model... But that wouldn't explain why it appears to be temporary... My best guess is this is the result…

Cursor one is back to Claude 4 or 3.5+ at best. Struggles to do things it did effortlessly a few weeks ago.

It’s not under load either it’s just fully downgraded. Feels more they’re dialing in what they can get away with but are pushing it very far.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by hirako2000 »

hdndjsbbs wrote: post #80
hirako2000 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is that was the plan all along. Once people won't be able to think anymore and business expect the level of productivity witnessed before, will have no choice but cough up whatever providers bill us.

"enshittification" gets thrown around a lot, but this is the exact playbook. Look at the previous bubble's cash cow: advertising. Online advertising is now ubiquitous, terrible, and mandatory for anyone who wants to do e-commerce. You can't run a mass-market online business without buying Adwords, Instagram Ads, etc. AI will be ubiquitous, and then it will get worse and more expensive. But we will be unable to return…

The odds of that happening are high. Trillions invested.

It occurred to me an outright rejections of these tools is brewing but can't quite materialise yet.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by stavros »

chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

Codex has been better for me, but it's WAY too nitpicky/defensive. It always wants to make changes that add complexity and code to solve a problem that's impossible to happen (e.g. a multiprocess race condition on a daemon I only ever run one instance of).
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