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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by fooster »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #74
geeky4qwerty wrote: post #39

I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

Lights on = Ads in your output. EOY latest; they can't keep kicking the massive costs down the road.

Where is your evidence of this "massive cost"? Inference is massively profitable for both anthropic and openai. Training is not.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#92

Post by throwaway2027 »

hirako2000 wrote: post #52
cmaster11 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Code for half a year, these past couple weeks have been a totally different experience I'm on max 20, and seeing my weekly quota going bust in ~3 days is a bit absurd when nothing has significantly changed in the way I work

I refuse to use anthropic's models (and openai, gemini) because the math simply doesn't add up. To add the fact we are being taken for fools with dramatic announcements, FOMOs messages. I even suspect some reaction farms are going on to boost post from people boasting Claude models. These don't happen for codex. Nor for mistral. Nor for deepseek. It can't just be that Claude code is so much better. There are open wei…

Mistral isn't that great. Deepseek was good when they first had thinking. But most people just try something out and if that doesn't work on that model then it's bad and for Claude and Codex and Gemini they just are that much better now, but if they quantize or cut limits they destabilize and you're right you might as well just use something worse but reliable.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#93

Post by bakugo »

This is your regular friendly reminder that these subscriptions do not entitle you to any specific amount of usage. That "5x" is utterly meaningless because you don't know what it's 5x of.

This is by design, of course. Anyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention knows these subscriptions are not sustainable, and the prices will have to go up over time. Quietly reducing the usage limits that they were never specific about in the first place is much easier than raising the prices of the individual subscription tiers, with the same effect.

If you want to know what kind of prices you'll be paying to fuel your vibe coding addiction in a few years, try out API pricing for a bit, and try not to cry when your 100$ credit is gone in 2 days.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#94

Post by faangguyindia »

chrismustcode wrote: post #84
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. My experience is limited only to CC, Gemini-cli, and Codex - not Aider yet, trying different combinations of different models. But, from my experience, CC puts everything else to shame. How does Cursor compare? Has anyone found an Aider combination that works as well?

Is aider even a thing considered anymore? It was pretty much first for CLI agents and had a benchmark that was the go to at the start of LLM coding. Now the benchmark doesn't get updated and aider never gets a mention in talking about CLI tools till now.

Aider is dead because it's pre function calling era of tech

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#95

Post by wesammikhail »

fooster wrote: post #91
1970-01-01 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lights on = Ads in your output. EOY latest; they can't keep kicking the massive costs down the road.

Where is your evidence of this "massive cost"? Inference is massively profitable for both anthropic and openai. Training is not.

source?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#96

Post by mixermachine »

chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

I'm using the Codex Business subscription (about 30€) already for multiple months. Even there they cut back on the quota. A few months back it was hard for me to reach the limit. Now it is easier.

Still, in comparison with Claude Code, the quota of Codex is a much better deal. However, they should not make it worse...

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#99

Post by faangguyindia »

geeky4qwerty wrote: post #39

I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

Ultimately we'll find more efficient techniques and hardware and AI companies will end up owning Nuclear Power Stations and continue providing models capable of 10x of what they are now.

Valuation have already reached point where these companies can run their nuclear power station, fund developement of new hardware and techniques and boost capabilities of their models by 10x

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#100

Post by parasti »

pxc wrote: post #21

It's a bit shocking to me how opaque the pricing for the subscription services by the frontier labs is. It's basically impossible for people to tell what they're actually buying, and difficult to even meaningfully report or compare experiences. How is this normal?

Yeah, I cancelled the moment I realized that the subscription is a scheme to get you to constantly dip into extra usage. I get more benefit out of Claude on the free tier than on Pro.
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