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France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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And switching to Google achieves the aim of getting away from American tech giants?

I don't think it's a wise thing to do at this point in time. There is more risk by not depending on America.

We're talking about a country that is daily threatening to invade. You'd feel it was clever to run your entire infrastructure on an Iranian OS? It's the same for EU since USA is threatening to invade.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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It was a pretty amusing comment to me. Not only has SUSE been around for over 30 years, it was the very first enterprise Linux and it already has MDM tooling in the multi-Linux manager, repository mirroring tool, open-build system, Kiwi, edge image builder. Everything to build out a full enterprise suite of servers, workstations, customized kiosk OSes, already there. I'm more of the "give me my terminal or give me de…

> France doesn't need to roll its own shit unless it just wants to for the hell of it. Which, knowing France, is not unlikely.

Rightfully so, I would say? Given that strategic independence is the starting point for this discussion.

Personally happy that my country has some measure of military autonomy from the U.S.

Though I am in favor of European integration, too.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

Is there a performance hit for cs 2 compared to windows with an rtx card? That‘s pretty much the only thing holding me back.

This is a pretty interesting topic.

For GO, switching to Linux (with an AMD card) was a free performance boost. I gained like 30fps.

For early CS2, the performance on Linux was terrible.

Now, the peak fps is slightly worse, but the frame pacing is much more stable. Eg: you get less fps, but also less fps drops.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Interestingly, there are zero non-US powerful laptops. The closest option is the Moore Threads MTT AI Book (12-core 2.65Ghz, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD, 14 inch). It cannot reach a modern Ryzen in performance though. It's fascinating that only the US can make good computers. I'm not from/in the US so I'm not saying that from a patriotic point of view. How hard can it be to pop a good ARM chip in a laptop and compete with HP,…

Which powerful computers are made in the USA? Design and assembly don't count, as these are the least robust to replication attempts. Apart from that, the manufacturing is all in East Asia; Intel is the exception, not the normal!

And Intel cannot exist without foreign talent.

It’s almost like globalism is not so bad as long as your companies pay their taxes.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Why would you need any user retraining? All distros are basically identical. The only real difference is whether you spell "package manager" as apt, yum, or dnf.

Yes. Noting that yum and dnf are basically the same.

dnf replaced yum, didn't it? I had it in my head that they were like apt and dpkg, but apparently not.

I need to get get into Redhat^W Fedora^W Rocky again some time soon.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

Is there a performance hit for cs 2 compared to windows with an rtx card? That‘s pretty much the only thing holding me back.

Within the past month or so there was a fix for rtx cards that should unlock a massive performance increase for certain games. Only applies to rtx 30xx, 40xx, and 50xx. Search terms are "vulkan descriptor heap" if you would like to know more. It's very fresh so you'll need an up to date distro.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Ok but the license fees are, what, 50 quid? times say, 3k or 30k people? A 150k or 1.5m injection into the linux ecosystem to develop those would pay for a _lot_ of developers and a _lot_ of developer time.

From what I heard about NGI-zero, another government sponsorship project (1), the problem so far is primarily finding the projects that need sponsorship. (1) https://nlnet.nl/NGI0/

That doesn't seem correct. Almost all of the projects installed on a standard Linux distro need funding. I just stopped applying to NLnet after getting nothing but rejections.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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> France doesn't need to roll its own shit unless it just wants to for the hell of it. Which, knowing France, is not unlikely.

Rightfully so, I would say? Given that strategic independence is the starting point for this discussion. Personally happy that my country has some measure of military autonomy from the U.S. Though I am in favor of European integration, too.

Oh absolutely. I'm living in Switzerland, there was big discussion some years ago whether we should go with F-35 jets or European alternatives like the Rafale or Gripen. We went with the F-35, which, especially now, more and more looks like the wrong decision.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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I guess installing windows is more work than running a VM ... and more invasive

More work than using custom builds of everything on the Linux host?

It’s just the kernel and virtualization stack that are custom. Dual booting is annoying as you lose access to your entire desktop environment. Want to tab out of your game and check your email client? Well you can’t unless you maintain another email on the Windows partition that you only want to use for running a game anyway. If you spend any significant amount of time gaming you just end up getting dragged away from Linux where you want to be. I was dual booting for a while and it was fine for a focused Skyrim session here and there but when I started playing an mmo that I was in and out of constantly it was very inconvenient to not have access to my Linux desktop environment while I was idling in the city for hours.

With lookingglass nowadays it practically feels like just running a windows game on Linux. I used a vfio setup for years before Linux gaming support was good and I had to switch monitors inputs and toggle my kvm whenever I launched a game and it was still better than dual booting. There wasn’t kernel anticheat back then though so i didn’t have to muck with the kernel and uefi.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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More work than using custom builds of everything on the Linux host?

It’s just the kernel and virtualization stack that are custom. Dual booting is annoying as you lose access to your entire desktop environment. Want to tab out of your game and check your email client? Well you can’t unless you maintain another email on the Windows partition that you only want to use for running a game anyway. If you spend any significant amount of time gaming you just end up getting dragged away from…

Not sure if it's still the case in the 2020's, but back in the 2010's I had no end of issues with Windows deciding to either fuck up the dualboot so nothing would load or overwrite it entirely and leave it as Windows only.
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