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Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Ok I'm just gonna straight up ask: do people actually like "oh no stepbrother" porn? What's with the huge proliferation of it? I only watch it because it seems like 80% of the well shot, quality porn is step family shit, and I'm wondering if I'm participating in some kind of bizarre feedback loop where step family porn happened to be a category that started getting higher quality production value, which got more view…

I typically watch porn with the audio turned off, because all of the dialog is just so bad in one way or another. I'm not there for the dialogue, and I don't care about the fake set-up before the actual porn starts happening.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

#83

Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship. This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

Moving your finger is legal, holding and aiming a gun is legal, pulling your finger to fire a gun is sometimes not legal.

Framing the gun debate as a restriction on finger movement would also not be productive.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

#85
post #49

Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they'd like with each other and if they want to record it and share it, that's none of my business. How much mainstream entertainment is centered on murder? Is that ok?

I care more about how it's warming people up for more age verification and other censorship laws. I don't really care what happens to porn producers. Most of which are exploitative, abusive, and many times downright criminal. There is a non-moral argument to specifically target porn. Your libertarian argument falls flat on it's face when you start looking into who owns the majority of porn and what they've been known…

Tl;dr

Nah, actually I did read it but I disagree. I don't want people imposing their morals on me. Adults are responsible for their actions

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair point, but I have been very surprised by how many normie friends have gotten a VPN since our state mandated age checks for adult content.

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Please explain what the Crispin buxley phenomenon is

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship. This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film.

There are several edge cases like this in the UK.

It's obviously not legal for say, me, a middle aged man, to possess a photograph of some 17 year old girl with her tits out. Right? Except well... wait no, because what if I have a photo of my middle aged wife shortly after we first met, so the photo shows a 17 year old girl with her tits out, but the person is my wife, who is like "Yeah, remember when I had long hair? Also, I wish my tits still looked like that". So clearly that is OK after all, it's legal.

And then we have a huge row, she divorces me, now that photo is illegal after all, because I'm definitely not allowed to have photos of under-age girls with their tits out, and now the photo isn't of my wife... not any more.

Knife laws similarly have weird edge cases. 12" long sharp blade? Crime. In a Kebab shop to make delicious kebabs? Legal. I took it with me to the pub after work? Crime; Walking down the street with an ordinary Swiss Army Knife (oversize)? Crime. Tiny version of that knife? Legal. Sword, like an actual medieval sword? Crime. But I need it for this mock battle we're staging? Still a crime. No swords. Use a fake sword which can't hurt anybody or go to jail.

Edited: The "original" Swiss Army Knife is barely short enough that it's always legal, but some oversize variants are not. Like that Kebab knife you can have a lawful reason you needed to carry the knife regardless of size but I hope your reason make sense ("Self defence" is never a lawful reason to carry weapons in the UK)

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