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Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by lucianbr »

handfuloflight wrote: post #25
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."

People forget Carlin was a comedian.

"It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it.

"Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of error of it.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by Natfan »

> Under this amendment, senior tech figures who have been made aware of *none* consensual sexual materials on their websites could face large fines, imprisonment or both if they do not act to remove without good cause.

theguardian couldn't even be bothered to proof read? emphasis mine

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by kelseyfrog »

amarcheschi wrote: post #27
cjs_ac wrote: post #3

This comment section will inevitably fill up with comments from people who have exactly the same thing to say, namely, that internet censorship is bad. That opinion has transcended the good-take-bad-take dichotomy: it's entered the pantheon of ideas that are seamlessly dumped into any mildly-related discussion and act as an impediment to any more interesting ideas. Here's a more interesting idea: because the pornogra…

Age verification system just push users towards alternative websites or other ways to access it Guess why a friend of mine who is not into computer science was telling me about him using VPN a few days ago

You are absolutely right! It takes incredible bravery to admit that if we cannot solve the problem in totality then incremental improvements are useless.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by Chance-Device »

handfuloflight wrote: post #25
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."

Or, to be true to the original:“Driving is legal, and drinking is legal; but driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal.”

Maybe it’s just not street legal but you could do it on a race track?

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by kps »

Natfan wrote: post #32

> Under this amendment, senior tech figures who have been made aware of *none* consensual sexual materials on their websites could face large fines, imprisonment or both if they do not act to remove without good cause. theguardian couldn't even be bothered to proof read? emphasis mine

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Grauniad

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by mattnewton »

bhouston wrote: post #19

I don't get the point of banning specific pornography niches/fetishes that are otherwise legal. Are there not much more objectionable fetishes than this one?

This exactly. I don’t believe the government should be censoring porn, but I have a really hard time arguing that principle against studies that suggest it is normalizing choking and slapping women among the young men exposed to it. Why is this roleplay fetish the beachhead and not something like that?

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by jmyeet »

Anything but exposing the abusers who Epstein and Maxwell trafficked to [1] and investigating (let alone prosecuting) child abuse [2][3].

Britain has many real problems. This isn't one of them.

[1]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/the-epstein-files-rattle-...

[2]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/2/26/british-politicians...

[3]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/28/outrag...

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by xnyan »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #33
amarcheschi wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Age verification system just push users towards alternative websites or other ways to access it Guess why a friend of mine who is not into computer science was telling me about him using VPN a few days ago

You are absolutely right! It takes incredible bravery to admit that if we cannot solve the problem in totality then incremental improvements are useless.

Fair point, but I have been very surprised by how many normie friends have gotten a VPN since our state mandated age checks for adult content.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by burnte »

handfuloflight wrote: post #25
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."

One kills people the other makes people, they're not the same.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Post by Phelinofist »

komali2 wrote: post #15

Ok I'm just gonna straight up ask: do people actually like "oh no stepbrother" porn? What's with the huge proliferation of it? I only watch it because it seems like 80% of the well shot, quality porn is step family shit, and I'm wondering if I'm participating in some kind of bizarre feedback loop where step family porn happened to be a category that started getting higher quality production value, which got more view…

They have some kind of story and buildup, the thrill of doing something morally objective, sometimes the "getting caught" aspect

... or so I have heard

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