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France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by Farox »

lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

I have 3 4k monitors. Windows drives them without a problem. Linux still can't. I tried for a whole day and eventually gave up.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by LollipopYakuza »

robinwhg wrote: post #263
lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

Is there a performance hit for cs 2 compared to windows with an rtx card? That‘s pretty much the only thing holding me back.

It depends what are your expectations.

I thought it was fine, until a competitive player, friend of mine who has a machine comparable to mine saw the game running on mine and noticed a lot of stuttering and framerate loss. I don't believe it is a machine performance issue (Threadripper Pro 3XXX with a 3080p), and I was running a pretty standard Gnome Fedora 43 with NVIDIA drivers.

So if you are into competitive gaming, I guess it is debatable.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by satvikpendem »

craftkiller wrote: post #341
satvikpendem wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter whose fault it is, I go where the games actually work and are playable, which is still Windows today for many games.

It doesn't matter to you, but other people care about false accusations.

Who is accusing Linux as the cause of anticheat not working? I haven't ever seen that, I see people blaming the anticheat creators for not supporting Linux, they know Linux is not the one at fault yet they still want to play games therefore they use Windows instead.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by himata4113 »

drakythe wrote: post #347
himata4113 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been messing with kernel-mode anticheats for 3 to 4 years so yah, not something a typical gamer can do. But I have been contempating on making this publically available for everyone to use wrapped in a neat little package!

Out of curiosity do you run the backdoored kernel in your day to day computing or only when gaming? Any concerns about incidental security issues?

It's only backdoored within the virtual machines and require kernelmode within the virtual machine.

Any untrusted virtual machines don't run on my machine to begin with so it's alright.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by freedomben »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #326
lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

> Things run very well out of the box. > a good number of wheels, pedals, joysticks, VR headsets, and other wild and wacky input devices might not work that well or not at all > If a game has an aggressive anticheat, like Battlefield 6 or Valorant, it will not work and you can forget about it > Not sure about VR, but I know it was a bit dire 1-2 years ago The determination of the average Linux user to ignore the faul…

The deterimination of some people to hate on Linux is also something to behold. It's not perfect (nothing is, not even Windows), but it's a lot better than most people (who I don't think have actually tried) seem to think it is.

The majority of people don't use fancy wheels that require custom software to work. Many people do use anti-cheat, but plenty of people don't need it.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by oceansky »

konart wrote: post #308
oceansky wrote: post #265

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No wonder it's classified informally as "eurojank".

Well, modded Stalker is ways better than most of the USAjank that typicall can't offer something other yet another blockbuster.

Even vanilla STALKER is still a timeless classic.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by ecshafer »

Goronmon wrote: post #300
lionkor wrote: post #191

All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

All games I want to play run very well and mostly the process is just "install -> play". This is largely true for games running directly through Steam, it can get pretty annoying for games that exist outside Steam. Especially when you have to do things like apply an ".msi" style patch to a game . It's doable, but the number of steps and tools you may have to pull in (such as protontricks) does get to be a bit of a pa…

The trick I have is that I add the game and all related windows exes to steam in the same file system. When you run a game on proton through steam, it makes this virtual file system thats matches a game appid, or a uuid. So youll get a folder somewhere thats like 12345566778. You can add that file to an override for a different application, and have it run on that application file system. So if you add a patcher, mod tool etc, you can use it just like its in windows.

For example: Add Diablo 2 exe to Steam. Run Diablo 2 in proton. This creates a folder like 123455 /home/user/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/123455/. Then Add LOD to Steam, add this to the system launch STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=/home/user/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/123455/ and you can run the installer on the older file data. Do the same for a mod patcher, etc.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by craftkiller »

satvikpendem wrote: post #353
craftkiller wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter to you, but other people care about false accusations.

Who is accusing Linux as the cause of anticheat not working? I haven't ever seen that, I see people blaming the anticheat creators for not supporting Linux, they know Linux is not the one at fault yet they still want to play games therefore they use Windows instead.

You didn't read the thread? It's the comment I was replying to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47718255

They quote "If a game has an aggressive anticheat" and then state "The determination of the average Linux user to ignore the faults of Linux", which is accusing Linux of being at fault for the aggressive anticheat not working.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by giglamesh »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #331
llarsson wrote: post #159

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Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open, rather than just giving it all to Microsoft instead?

If governments, especially France, get involved in software development the likely outcome is that people will soon regret the days of Microsoft...

The so called free market really did a bang up job didn't it? The proprietary buggy mess of Windows and the walled garden of MacOS which given its *nix underpinnings could have been really fantastically awesome but instead is a proprietary buggy mess.
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