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Re: EFF is leaving X

#882
People still on Twitter have the same energy as the last guy at a house party who won’t leave. The lights are on, the host is asleep, and you’re in the kitchen trying to one-up a drunk stranger on Kierkegaard to impress a girl who’s clearly not going home with either of you.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#883

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story behind the numbers they present clearly demonstrates that X is censoring/shadowbanning them. Going from 600MM to 13MM impressions/yr -- losing 98% of their impressions! -- is no accident but clearly Musk's thumb on the scale. Imagine what this means if you are trying to gauge impact of a post. Remember, X is giving them zero information about who they're preventing from seeing it. Impressions is the main da…

They still get more engagement on X than on Bluesky. Also, cross positing the same content on multiple platforms isn’t time consuming. This is clearly EFF violating their stated commitment to political neutrality, and providing only a superficial and easily discredited rationale for cover.

>They still get more engagement on X than on Bluesky.

Is this the right metric? Or would having 98% of their impressions lopped off by the platform factor in? What if they were 100% suppressed? Would it still be "political" for them to leave? If not, then what's the threshhold?

And, if the platform is suppressing them, then isn't it the platform that's playing politics? How are they absolved, and why should EFF stick around to give them its imprimatur of legitimacy / neutrality?

Re: EFF is leaving X

#884
post #761

>Our presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is not an endorsement [...] We stay because the people on those platforms deserve access to information, too. We stay because some of our most-read posts are the ones criticizing the very platform we're posting on. We stay because the fewer steps between you and the resources you need to protect yourself, the better. Does this not apply to X users?

Just above that they explain the tradeoffs leading them to leave twitter. Basically, they can't reach X users on X.

Do you really need to reach users on X. It is filter for a specific type of user who don't share the ideals of the EFF. And racists.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#885

>Our presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is not an endorsement [...] We stay because the people on those platforms deserve access to information, too. We stay because some of our most-read posts are the ones criticizing the very platform we're posting on. We stay because the fewer steps between you and the resources you need to protect yourself, the better. Does this not apply to X users?

I don't use Facebook, Instagram & Tiktok. But I do use X, since there the censoring is least on X amongst all those platforms.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#886
post #770

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a drop compared to the ocean compared to this one time when he performed multiple nazi salute in front of an entire country, or when he single handedly decided to intervene in a foreign war via Star link control or when he messed with entire branches of the American government

> nazi salute, foreign war intervention, government influence Leading with the supposed "nazi salute" really detracts from the other, much more legitimate and substantive issues you raised.

Supposed? He slapped his chest, and flung his arm hard into a heil. And then he turned around and heiled the flag.

He grew up in apartheid South Africa, where his grandparents moved because they wanted to support apartheid. His grandparents were nazis; as in Errol Musk has stated they were in the "German [Nazi] Party but in Canada", and supported Hitler in the 1940s. Elon would have picked up on these influences, and Elon himself has supported AFD, the current german nazi party. By all accounts, it's not out of character for Elon to heil. I mean, if we for some reason are discounting the obvious visual evidence that he did, in fact, heil.

Pleas explain to me how that wasn't a nazi salute.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#887

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem they're not talking about is that for all the X users they could potentially help, their messages will be actively suppressed by the platform owner. Nate Silver, famously popular (...lol) with the online left, made a post about this recently: https://www.natesilver.net/p/social-media-has-become-a-freak... EFF is, politically, left wing.

EFF used to stand for a cause that was neither left nor right.

Right went full fascist. Being moderate fascist is not an apolitical position despite being in the middle.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#888
post #639

They will accomplish nothing and be happy, like so many. I used to respect the exodus, but these days my mental heuristics go off with red alert at the sight of a Bluesky icon replacing Twitter in a website footer.

Agree on that, bsky trolls are pretty much as bad as twitter ones

Re: EFF is leaving X

#889

Astounds me that anyone is still using that platform after seeing how Musk treated the engineers when he took over.

Right now it's the #1 news app on the App Store.

reddit is #4, NYT is #11, Fox is #16, AP is #18, CNN is #21.

The rational question isn't "Why is anyone still using it?", it's "Why aren't you?"

The answer would appear to be emotional/ideological on your part, which is fine, but not very honest to express like this.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#890

There does seem to be evidence that X (formerly Twitter) is a dying platform, but what surprised me here is that longtime platforms like Snapchat, Reddit and even Pinterest get more MAUs than X - and this is more October 2025: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-net... It would be really interesting to learn if brands and advertisers are seeing the same thing?

>There does seem to be evidence that X (formerly Twitter) is a dying platform,

Absurd statement.

Check the App Store's news app rankings: https://apps.apple.com/us/iphone/charts/6009

X/twitter is #1. reddit is #4, NYT is #11, Fox is #16, AP is #18, CNN is #21.

That's not a dying platform as much as you clearly wish that were true. The question is why are you so hellbent on convincing people something that is clearly not dying; is dying?

If X is dying, CNN, AP, Fox and NYT are stone cold corpses with reddit having its last gasp.

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