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Post by jmull »

helaoban wrote: post #259

>Our presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is not an endorsement [...] We stay because the people on those platforms deserve access to information, too. We stay because some of our most-read posts are the ones criticizing the very platform we're posting on. We stay because the fewer steps between you and the resources you need to protect yourself, the better. Does this not apply to X users?

Just above that they explain the tradeoffs leading them to leave twitter.

Basically, they can't reach X users on X.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by busterarm »

93po wrote: post #735
ghshephard wrote: post #704

"Last year, our 1,500 posts earned roughly 13 million impressions for the entire year." 13 million impressions? And how much did they pay to reach their audience? I'm absolutely gobsmacked that any organization is willing to walk away from 13 million impressions a year and very interested in know how many impressions/year they get on their top-ten outreach platforms if 13 million impressions/year (presumably for free…

I'm a lifetime EFF member and have given them money multiple times, but this article is also clearly missing: 1. Are they spending less to get content promoted? 2. Are they posting links outside of twitter back to twitter less often? 3. Are they linking links to twitter in all their site traffic like they used to? 4. Is their site traffic in general the same as it used to be? There is no analysis - just flat contextl…

> disclaimer: anti elon, very pro-LGTB+, pro-EFF aside from weird political snipes

I'm actually with you on basic philosophy but the weird political snipes undercut everything they're doing and I can't support any nonprofi who stonewalls questions about what they're doing with my money.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by antfarm »

About time. Other platforms may not exactly be aligned with EFF’s goals, but Musk is outright endorsing the far right and neo-fascist parties in America and Europe.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by worik »

TiredGuy wrote: post #650
traderj0e wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> This seems like a valid critique of the content of the article

No it was not.

The EFF clearly stated the main reason the left X/Twitter is that it no longer works for them as a way to reach out. To anybody.

Nothing to do with the politics of those they were reaching.

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Post by hitekker »

cbsmith wrote: post #673
jl6 wrote: post #625

Seems like any activist org should have two audiences: 1) Supporters who may become donors 2) Neutrals/opponents who may become supporters. If you only ever communicate in forums where people already agree with you, you’ll probably have optimized your fundraising, but will probably never achieve your actual purpose. Activist orgs have to reach and turn the non-supporters somehow, and the absolute best way to achieve…

You might want to read their post before commenting. They seem very much aware of the need to reach people who aren't supporters and have always actively engaged with the platforms they are critical of. It's just that X isn't really an effective use of their time anymore.

The post feigns outreach but the "Facebook and Tiktok are Evil" section blatantly panders to EFF supporters. It frontloads identity-group-affirming language to justify using platforms its supporters dislike at while saying nothing critical about platforms its supporters enjoy (Bluesky / Mastodon). That selective scrutiny suggest the EFF either doesn't care or is ignorant about the hang-ups of non-supporters, e.g., conservative and center-right folks.

I'm neither a supporter nor opponent; I only see the EFF's rhetoric as way for themselves and their supporters to lie about their mutual contempt for their opponents.

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Post by p_j_w »

bpt3 wrote: post #603
solid_fuel wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And how does picking and choosing which social media platforms they blast content onto fight fascism? Are Tiktok and Facebook leadership known for their antifascist stances?

Encouraging people to use X drives money into the hands of fascists.

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Post by socalgal2 »

What a joke. Eff complains that Musk threw out the previous censors. It's been well documented they were censoring in bad faith. Effectively the Eff wants the bad censors re-installed.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by justinhj »

Doesn't X have the things they asked for? end to end message encryption community notes open source algorithm

What about the marginalized people organizing on X? They don't deserve EFF

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Post by lta »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #135

Astounds me that anyone is still using that platform after seeing how Musk treated the engineers when he took over.

That's just a drop compared to the ocean compared to this one time when he performed multiple nazi salute in front of an entire country, or when he single handedly decided to intervene in a foreign war via Star link control or when he messed with entire branches of the American government
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