EFF is leaving X • Hacker News Board

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by pixl97 » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:07 PM UTC

matt-attack wrote: post #154

bakugo wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The fact that their Threads account[0] is still active (remember that site? yeah, me neither, I had forgotten it existed until I saw it linked on eff.org's socials page) makes it clear that the opening statement about "the numbers not working out" is deceptive. You have to scroll down a bit further to find their real reason for preferring those sites: > people of color, queer folks, activists, and organizers…

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Remind me again what the Q in LGBTQ stands for?

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by a_paddy » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:07 PM UTC

codeflo wrote: post #116

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

My favourite microblogging platform is way.land

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by UncleMeat » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:07 PM UTC

Brendinooo wrote: post #20

That statement pretty clearly shows that they have certain ideological concerns that they value more highly than the kind of stuff we tend to think the EFF primarily cares about (digital privacy, open source, patent trolling, etc). Through that lens, I guess it makes sense that they see TikTok, Instagram, and BlueSky as worth their time and presence but not X.

They also mention that tweets today get far less engagement than they once did.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by surgical_fire » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:07 PM UTC

mellosouls wrote: post #19

If they justify it in terms of reach and impressions then say they will still be on BlueSky and Mastodon then you know it's purely ideological. Which is fine but just be honest about it.

We are talking about EFF. They are essentially an advocacy group, 100% ideological by definition.

It would be dishonest of them to pretend they were not ideological. Staying on Twitter was likely worse for their mission then leaving it.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by cycomanic » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

nailer wrote: post #145

mghackerlady wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

freedom is intersectional. it's hard to fight for freedom while supporting those that actively limit the freedom of others, especially when the amount of impressions are no longer worth doing it for

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I think that's the point. The owner of X as well as most of the remaining denizens are actively working on taking away the freedom of others to believe in their own views and make them adhere to their beliefs.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by micromacrofoot » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

holmesworcester wrote: post #160

davidw wrote: post #118

My grandparents were pretty WASPy, conservative people who lived in northern Idaho. And they hated the white supremacist/neonazi groups up there with a burning passion. They were of an age to remember people going off to fight in Germany and Asia against that kind of ideology. They would have been absolutely appalled and ashamed to see a business leader throwing those salutes and backing it up with talk of a "white h…

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I guess we're at "it's your fault for having eyes" part of the defense of the action.

It seemed pretty blatant to me if you watch the whole video, the chest pound and the clear arm/hand extension really makes it difficult to see as anything else.

It was distinctly different from the stills of other politicians waving that often get used as comparison by trolls trying to defend it... when you compare videos the difference is not even questionable.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

davidw wrote: post #118

My grandparents were pretty WASPy, conservative people who lived in northern Idaho. And they hated the white supremacist/neonazi groups up there with a burning passion. They were of an age to remember people going off to fight in Germany and Asia against that kind of ideology. They would have been absolutely appalled and ashamed to see a business leader throwing those salutes and backing it up with talk of a "white h…

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Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by 1234letshaveatw » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

amatecha wrote: post #37

Is there any site that keeps track of companies/orgs and/or noteworthy people who have left "X"? I've noticed some pretty significant orgs leaving in the recent year or two and have repeatedly wondered if there's some kind of list out there. I mean, it would just be a handy list to show people when I say something like "more and more people are leaving that garbage site" and they want receipts and I'm like... "uh the…

That is just like when those US celebs moved to Europe after Trump was elected!

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by CrzyLngPwd » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

So they are chasing engagement, and X isn't giving them the attention they think they deserve.

The golden days of the sentinels driving traffic without you paying for it are over, and they won't come back.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by surgical_fire » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:08 PM UTC

243341286 wrote: post #101

madeofpalk wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Of course they're ideological. That's the whole point of their existence. Anyway, > Twitter was never a utopia. We've criticized the platform for about as long as it’s been around. Still, Twitter did deserve recognition from time to time for vociferously fighting for its users’ rights. That changed. Musk fired the entire human rights team and laid off staffers in countries…

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What censorship?

Conservative talking points were fucking everywhere, and still are.