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Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by tptacek »

mghackerlady wrote: post #132
Brendinooo wrote: post #20

That statement pretty clearly shows that they have certain ideological concerns that they value more highly than the kind of stuff we tend to think the EFF primarily cares about (digital privacy, open source, patent trolling, etc). Through that lens, I guess it makes sense that they see TikTok, Instagram, and BlueSky as worth their time and presence but not X.

freedom is intersectional. it's hard to fight for freedom while supporting those that actively limit the freedom of others, especially when the amount of impressions are no longer worth doing it for

That's explicitly not the logic EFF is using; they come close to outright rejecting it.

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Post by 0123456789ABCDE »

243341286 wrote: post #101
madeofpalk wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Of course they're ideological. That's the whole point of their existence. Anyway, > Twitter was never a utopia. We've criticized the platform for about as long as it’s been around. Still, Twitter did deserve recognition from time to time for vociferously fighting for its users’ rights. That changed. Musk fired the entire human rights team and laid off staffers in countries…

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care to share some quotes from those "conservative opinions" that were censored?

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by aeternum »

madeofpalk wrote: post #23
mellosouls wrote: post #19

If they justify it in terms of reach and impressions then say they will still be on BlueSky and Mastodon then you know it's purely ideological. Which is fine but just be honest about it.

They're the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Of course they're ideological. That's the whole point of their existence. Anyway, > Twitter was never a utopia. We've criticized the platform for about as long as it’s been around. Still, Twitter did deserve recognition from time to time for vociferously fighting for its users’ rights. That changed. Musk fired the entire human rights team and laid off staffers in countries…

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Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by Brendinooo »

Legend2440 wrote: post #180
Brendinooo wrote: post #20

That statement pretty clearly shows that they have certain ideological concerns that they value more highly than the kind of stuff we tend to think the EFF primarily cares about (digital privacy, open source, patent trolling, etc). Through that lens, I guess it makes sense that they see TikTok, Instagram, and BlueSky as worth their time and presence but not X.

The EFF is and has always been a political activist organization. Of course they care about ideological concerns.

Where in my comment did I claim otherwise?

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by raverbashing »

noosphr wrote: post #156
codeflo wrote: post #116

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

Probably more reasonable. I'm not sure why xorg exists if their sole purpose is to kill x. As per the many posts by their developers.

It would be ironic if Xorg launched a twitter competitor using a custom update protocol (an X extension) over the network and TCL

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by jdashg »

loeg wrote: post #123
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brand reputation. Every brand that chooses to use X implicitly supports X, even if they're not verified & paying X money.

Does anyone seriously think EFF posting to X yesterday tarnished their brand? Be real.

I do, yeah. Hope that helps!

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Post by mghackerlady »

greenavocado wrote: post #177
mghackerlady wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

freedom is intersectional. it's hard to fight for freedom while supporting those that actively limit the freedom of others, especially when the amount of impressions are no longer worth doing it for

"freedom is intersectional" is a fancy way of saying "I only support freedom for people I agree with." and the impressions line at the end is basically admitting it was never about principles, it was about clout. you didn't leave the platform because of ethics, you left because the algorithm stopped paying you for it.

>"freedom is intersectional" is a fancy way of saying "I only support freedom for people I agree with."

That is the exact opposite of what that means. It means freedom should be supported for all, especially for the oppressed. Those who stand for oppression in one way serve to benefit other forms of oppression

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Post by mindslight »

ryandrake wrote: post #165
holmesworcester wrote: post #160

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Anyone who doesn't think what Musk did was a Nazi salute, I encourage you to watch the video over and over, enough times so that you can memorize and replicate it, then go into work and do it in front of your manager, and see what happens. Of course, as expected, the Elon Musk Defense League showed up right on time. Does he give out $100 for every post defending his honor online?

"Oh, I must have missed seeing you at the corporate retreat! Put yourself on my calendar so we can talk about your promotion."

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Post by ceejayoz »

ryandrake wrote: post #165
holmesworcester wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Anyone who doesn't think what Musk did was a Nazi salute, I encourage you to watch the video over and over, enough times so that you can memorize and replicate it, then go into work and do it in front of your manager, and see what happens. Of course, as expected, the Elon Musk Defense League showed up right on time. Does he give out $100 for every post defending his honor online?

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