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US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by budman1 »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #30
budman1 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a back of the envelope, not cognizant of all of the factors, estimate. We don't know what the pacing item of the manufacturing is. It could be sub-assemblies from another company, raw materials, final assembly workers, facilities for final assembly, or a lack of capital to address these shortcomings. Double the price you are willing to pay, and I bet the rate goes up a lot. You can build a new building in 6 m…

I have a saying I use with clients: "anything is possible with time and money". Certainly, anything is possible. But this is a current and present risk if China were to make a move in the next month (if we agree that anything is possible). Author is saying "this is a clear and present risk", not that "this can't be solved with time and money".

we are in agreement.

what we don't know is what is the blocker? it maybe that LM is running at 10% capacity, with a lot of material in stock. a purchase order shows up, and they start a night shift next week.

may or may not be a dire situation. unless, as you mentioned, we need them next month.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by CharlieDigital »

budman1 wrote: post #31
CharlieDigital wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a saying I use with clients: "anything is possible with time and money". Certainly, anything is possible. But this is a current and present risk if China were to make a move in the next month (if we agree that anything is possible). Author is saying "this is a clear and present risk", not that "this can't be solved with time and money".

we are in agreement. what we don't know is what is the blocker? it maybe that LM is running at 10% capacity, with a lot of material in stock. a purchase order shows up, and they start a night shift next week. may or may not be a dire situation. unless, as you mentioned, we need them next month.

That's the thing: this Iranian operation produced nothing of value for the United States but most definitely weakened our capabilities even if we say it is a temporary state until our supplies are replenished.

Trading a rook for a pawn makes sense if you can take a queen. But if you just trade a rook for a pawn...

Speak nothing of the waste of tax payer dollars and loss of Iranian civilian lives for this nothingburger.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by gosub100 »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #5

> If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency. China wins by literally doing nothing. US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.

We're not at war with China.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by morninglight »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #5

> If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency. China wins by literally doing nothing. US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.

Put my tax dollars to better use.

In 2025, BYD manufactured 2.2 million battery electric vehicles.

I only need one.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by CharlieDigital »

gosub100 wrote: post #33
CharlieDigital wrote: post #5

> If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency. China wins by literally doing nothing. US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.

We're not at war with China.

We're not in a military war with them...yet (and maybe Trump would just let them take Taiwan; who knows).

We are definitely in an economic "war" with them, basically outright banning their automotive industry from gaining a foothold in the US and doing things like pressuring Nvidia to limit exports to them.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by gosub100 »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #35
gosub100 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're not at war with China.

We're not in a military war with them...yet (and maybe Trump would just let them take Taiwan; who knows). We are definitely in an economic "war" with them, basically outright banning their automotive industry from gaining a foothold in the US and doing things like pressuring Nvidia to limit exports to them.

yeah, so Apple and Ford should hire mercenaries to defend Taiwan. Not our military.

And if we are in "economic war" then bring manufacturing back to the rust belt. Give people good-paying wages again. Stop sending empty containers across the ocean when we are pressured about "climate change". Notice how the Epstein class never gets implored to change their status quo. But we need to drive EVs or else the polar bears drown.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by stldev »

vorpalhex wrote: post #26
stldev wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Madurismo without Maduro. Ukraine? Sure, after extorting them for campaign help (minerals later) while Russians murdered their families. And we're not "enabling" the sinking of any Russian ships.

Venezuela has bulk freed their political prisoners and is on track to hold elections. And I think you will find Ukraine lacks the necessary satellite constellations to enable very long distance corrected boat strikes. Yet strangely Ukraine has suddenly been successfukly performing trajectory corrected boat strikes.. at very long distances.. Seemingly launched from not Ukraine. Or maybe Russian oil terminals just keep…

PURL/SACEUR as I understand it, no?

We're not enabling the sinking of Russian ships. Your facts are off. It shouldn't be difficult to see that this administration has no interest in preserving democracy or allies.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by pseudohadamard »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #5

> If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency. China wins by literally doing nothing. US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.

  China wins by literally doing nothing.
Or to quote Napoleon, "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake".

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by pseudohadamard »

juancn wrote: post #15

The Chinese YKJ-1000 is reported to cost $99000 per unit, is hypersonic and has a range of ~1300 KM. It's looking like the US needs some disruption on their armament suppliers, kinda what SpaceX did for space launches. Compare that to the 1.5M each of the JASSM cost.

And a Shahed with the same range costs $30k or so.

Re: US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year

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Post by troyvit »

nprz wrote: post #14
troyvit wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's not a question of if the administration is compromised, but rather who is doing the compromising. Hell why can't it be both?

Yes, the infamous Russia lobby who spends lavishly on virtually every sitting congress member's campaign[0]. The Russian oligarchs who donated 100 million on Trump's reelection[1]. It's all so obvious. [0] https://www.trackaipac.com/congress [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/us/politics/miriam-adelso...

There's ways to influence useful idiots besides lobbying.
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