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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by Xx_crazy420_xX »

deweller wrote: post #120

A "few seconds" to pay in bitcoin? So the captain is supposed to be watching for a response via email with his finger hovering over the pay button? Is the recipient address static? Surely they would use unique payment addresses if they have any hope of obfuscating payments. This all sounds more like a TV show script than an actual thought-out plan to me.

Why would you want to obfuscate payments if you can track how many ships entered the gulf using transponders? Regarding money laundering, you use Tornado Cash or Monero

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Post by halflife »

lejalv wrote: post #168
halflife wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Its the 10-point plan of Iran which forms the basis of the ceasefire. I don't think it can get much more clear that the US lost this war, along with dignity, decorum and the respect of the world.

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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by giancarlostoro »

konschubert wrote: post #179
fernandopj wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I follow your logic, but one could argue this campaign with drones and cheaper missiles taught Iran it doesn't even need a nuclear deterrent anymore. Between this and Ukraine, the logic of a nuclear warhead deterrent might be considered a paradigm relic from 20th century.

This is false. If Trump had chosen to nuke Iranian cities, Iran would have had no recourse without a proper nuclear bomb.

I would be surprised if they could get it out of their airspace considering their country is heavily monitored. Every target hit was probably known for years and years, their routines and what they do.

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Post by cheriot »

belorn wrote: post #39

Does this mean ceasefire is now broken? The 10 point plan was to be discussed later in the peace talks, but what was the exact conditions that predicated the ceasefire?

I suspect more fighting in Lebanon means less oil through Hormuz. Iran kept its definition of "open" vague. Everyone is keeping the pressure up during negotiations.

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Post by cindyllm »

hdhdhsjsbdh wrote: post #130
mvkel wrote: post #62

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American exceptionalism is crazy. We do not always come out on top. Sometimes – quite frequently actually – we are dumb as shit, overplay our hand, and create more problems for ourselves than we solve. 4D chess is a myth.

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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by MarsIronPI »

fernandopj wrote: post #115
jMyles wrote: post #55

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As best I can tell, the Iranian regime and Sharif both said that they ceasefire included a cease to strikes on Lebanon, Netanyahu explicitly said that it did not, and the Trump admin, Lebanon, and Hezbollah have not yet commented either way. Links to Pakistan and Israel statements here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/8/us-iran-ceasefire-de...

Iran is ATM saying it closed the Strait again, implied that it will wait until Israel stand down at least. Even if USA insist on Israel-Hezbollah (and so Lebanon) be kept apart from any deal to end their war in Iran, it would still mean a terrible strategic and diplomatic disaster between USA and Israel, because Israel Gov' will be left with two terrible scenarios: 1) Trump Admin' will concede to Iran they'd be leavi…

> IMHO don't see how Israel-US can politically survive those two scenarios.

Is that such a bad thing?

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Post by HWR_14 »

jmclnx wrote: post #13
pavlov wrote: post #2

”Hosseini said that each tanker must email authorities about its cargo, after which Iran will inform them of the toll to be paid in digital currencies. “He said that the tariff is $1 per barrel of oil, adding that empty tankers can pass freely. “‘Once the email arrives and Iran completes its assessment, vessels are given a few seconds to pay in bitcoin, ensuring they can’t be traced or confiscated due to sanctions,’…

Cannot get to the article, so: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-warns-tankers-they... What is to stop the ships from lying ? I wonder if Iran will do spot check of some ships to prevent this. And will boarding ships cause Trump to have yet another breakdown ?

Oil is heavy. The ship designs are known. You can tell approximately how full a ship is by how deep it sinks into the water/where the waterline is.

They can probably consistently lie by a small percentage and Iran let's them get the 3% discount as an acceptable loss.

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Post by wongarsu »

snickerbockers wrote: post #143
Havoc wrote: post #53

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I’d say there is a credible case for saying the vote for 2nd round of trump was the turning point. By that point is was already pretty well established that he isn’t fit yet that’s what the public wanted.

The democrats deserve a fair share of the blame for that just for their having created and maintained the two-party duopoly along with the Republicans. At the very least its not the voters fault if the only viable alternative to the Republicans is constantly rigging (or in this case straight-up bypassing ) their own primaries to put corrupt party insiders at the forefront.

The root cause is the first-past-the-post voting system that ensures a two-party system.

But for the party with the most responsibility for blowing it all up I'd like to nominate Rupert Murdoch. Most visibly with Fox News, but really his entire media empire

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Post by [deleted] »

vunderba wrote: post #34
wongarsu wrote: post #6

I was under the impression that they were asking for payment in stablecoins, not bitcoin? Did they change their mind?

I’ve heard a lot of discussion about them accepting payments in Chinese yuan. I wonder if there’s a stablecoin pegged to it.

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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by sysguest »

lesuorac wrote: post #173
halflife wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if both sides do not agree to that request it’s not part of the ceasefire, pretty simple.

If both sides don't agree on the terms of a ceasefire you don't have a ceasefire.

hmm so the iranian diplomatic side can't even read english...?

I mean, I wouldn't expect a random diplomat to read iranian... but would 99.999999999% expect to read english

those iranian side who didn't point out "hey english version is different!" are all bonkers

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