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Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by xnyan »

lerp-io wrote: post #129

Iran taking USD bribe instead of obtaining nukes made it worse for them in long run.

A large segment of the Iranian political class bet their reputations on the nuclear non-proliferation deal with the US in 2015. They've all now been utterly discredited and the hardliners proven correct in all of their predictions.

They can look at Ukraine who bitterly regrets giving up their nuclear weapons, or North Korea, seemingly invulnerable despite being the most pariah of pariah states.

From the perspective of the Iranian state, it would be idiotic and irresponsible not to try to make a nuclear weapon in these conditions.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by HDThoreaun »

GeoPolAlt wrote: post #3

I think this war will be the moment that historians mark as the death of Pax Americana. The US failed to change the Iranian regime, failed to open the strait, and now a previously international waterway will be tolled in a currency other than the dollar. I wish it need not have happened in my time

The toll is not going to happen. Iran has plenty of demands regarding the ceasefire and will get almost none of them.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by lesuorac »

halflife wrote: post #155
nickthegreek wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran stated that it needed to be. I know Israel/US said it isnt, but that isnt how a ceasefire works. All sides actually have to agree to the terms of a ceasefire to have a ceasefire. https://www.axios.com/2026/04/08/lebanon-attacks-israel-iran...

So if both sides do not agree to that request it’s not part of the ceasefire, pretty simple.

If both sides don't agree on the terms of a ceasefire you don't have a ceasefire.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by Pay08 »

bradleyankrom wrote: post #134
Pay08 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps informative as a study of institutional bias and government interference.

No? Sources? It's possible that Qatar's government has some editorial control over the Arabic content, but my understanding is that the English operations are separate.

It's the same company, English operations can't be separate.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/media/should-i-trust-al-jaz...

https://apnews.com/article/b39b94d6847f4ee6acafd6ad2da7e963

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by Pay08 »

M_bara wrote: post #138
bradleyankrom wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Al Jazeera's (English) coverage of the region to be informative. YMMV.

Honestly, it’s a good counter to get both sides of the coin. At the moment you’ll find BBC, CNN, NYT et al on one end and Al Jazeera on the other. I also look at DW for a more balanced approach. Don’t consume from one camp!

Fair call on CNN and DW, but the NYT has always been at least somewhat aligned with Al Jazeera, and the BBC switches around with whatever the current government is.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by littlecranky67 »

sunshine-o wrote: post #153
wongarsu wrote: post #6

I was under the impression that they were asking for payment in stablecoins, not bitcoin? Did they change their mind?

I believe the only stablecoin that is "uncensorable" is the old MakerDAO DAI (pegged to USD with vaults overcollaterised with other tokens). Not sure if there is a lot of liquidity left. Its successor USDS has implemented all the mechanisms to censor some addresses but if I remember correctly this hasn't been activated yet. All the other ones: USDC, USDT, EURC and the ruble one can be whipped out easily. So more risk…

You can issue any stablecoin via bitcoins taproot asset protocol. Transfer even over lightning. Thus it is uncensorable. USDT has this enabled.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by [deleted] »

halflife wrote: post #155
nickthegreek wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran stated that it needed to be. I know Israel/US said it isnt, but that isnt how a ceasefire works. All sides actually have to agree to the terms of a ceasefire to have a ceasefire. https://www.axios.com/2026/04/08/lebanon-attacks-israel-iran...

So if both sides do not agree to that request it’s not part of the ceasefire, pretty simple.

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Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by konschubert »

fernandopj wrote: post #165
lerp-io wrote: post #129

Iran taking USD bribe instead of obtaining nukes made it worse for them in long run.

I'm not sure I follow your logic, but one could argue this campaign with drones and cheaper missiles taught Iran it doesn't even need a nuclear deterrent anymore. Between this and Ukraine, the logic of a nuclear warhead deterrent might be considered a paradigm relic from 20th century.

This is false. If Trump had chosen to nuke Iranian cities, Iran would have had no recourse without a proper nuclear bomb.

Re: Iran demands Bitcoin fees for ships passing Hormuz during ceasefire

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Post by throw310822 »

nickthegreek wrote: post #142
halflife wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Iran stated that it needed to be. I know Israel/US said it isnt, but that isnt how a ceasefire works. All sides actually have to agree to the terms of a ceasefire to have a ceasefire. https://www.axios.com/2026/04/08/lebanon-attacks-israel-iran...

I can't understand how it is possible that when such ceasefires are agreed there isn't a designated third party who has the signatures of both parties and can say, and prove, if it's been violated.
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