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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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The Ayatollah Booth is egg on the US's face regardless, but $2M/ship is about $1/barrel for perspective. Spot price is $95/barrel right now.

Not convinced it will happen. What would prevent Saudi Arabia from retaliating and introducing a special fee on all ships coming from Iran. It's not like intercepting those massive cargo ships in a small sea is of any difficulty for a well funded military.

Geography and missiles? Iran have everything to lose and have been put in a position where they literally have to fight for their existence.

Militarily Iran is a giant and Saudi Arabia is a minnow.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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I just don't know how his supporters aren't embarrassed. Nominative determinism is insane. one man trumped the legacy and fortunes of a great nation.

They're utterly embarrassed it's just that they've been persistently encouraged via their amygdalas to project their own shame and insecurities onto others, as well as to swallow insane rationales as to why even though these people are evil it's a necessary bitter pill for the worldly government to swallow in order to bring in the eternal kingdom

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ayatollah Booth is egg on the US's face regardless, but $2M/ship is about $1/barrel for perspective. Spot price is $95/barrel right now.

$2M/ship is $100B/year at pre-war crossing rates.

Nice. I wonder what the costs of reparations would be if the ceasefire were to end the war?

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

What option is there for israel.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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The NYT is throwing Trump under the bus and protects Vance as the next candidate:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-wa...

The timing is really suspicious. The fact that all this opposition in internal meetings is leaked could mean two things:

1) The establishment is genuinely upset with Trump.

2) The ceasefire is a ruse and all this purported opposition is deliberately leaked to pretend that the US now really wants peace but is actually shipping ground troops to the region (at best) or manufacturing internal consent for nuclear bunker busters (at worst).

The fact that Trump posted that he considers the maximalist Iranian 10 point plan as a basis for negotiations points to 2). He has always attacked Iran during "negotiations".

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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I'm putting this[0] here just as a reminder of how horrible things can be and for basically nothing. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack

My wife is Iranian and I know many Iranian expats, and all my in-laws are in Iran. This attack on the school comes up all the time as a talking point. And I will tell you exactly how most Iranians react: they find it weird that you’ll talk about this school, but you won’t talk about the thousands of protesters killed by the regime. Yes. People die in war. It’s sad. But most Iranians will say “whether we go to war or…

> Imagine being against the American Revolution because some innocent civilians will get killed?

What was so great about the American revolution anyway? It's not like it gave any average people the right to vote, and it arguably preserved slavery for an extra 30 years.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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I hope that one day humanity learns that in war there are no winners. We're all just brothers and sisters born on different corners of the planet. We share the same home.

I hope that we stop attacking one another and find peace and work together as a race to overcome our challenges.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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It's disheartening to hear people talk about this in terms of won and lost. Is that how you think of these events? I think of them in terms of sadness and horror. The US threatened to obliterate a country and people, because gas was getting a little expensive. If winning and losing is the way you are framing this, instead of thinking about the humans that these actions affect, then we all have lost.

That doesn’t align with the perspective of actual Iranians I know. There are news reports of Iranian expats and opponents within Iranian who are disappointed with the ceasefire. They wanted trump to go further and destroy the regime. That aligns with conversations I’ve had with Iranians friends in the US and family members within Iran who want the regime destroyed so there is a chance of removing the Islamic theocrac…

Source please. How to get informed opinion on what the actual iran people feel.

It seems from new media the support for khameni family has increased after the leader was killed.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

What option is there for israel.

Fair. Clearly they need the land back GOD gave them 3000 years ago.
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