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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by cjbgkagh »

defrost wrote: post #97
cjbgkagh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this 10 point plan drops the need for US to pay reparations instead relying on transit fees which will be split with Oman. Missiles are still flying so it’s hard to say who has really agreed to what. I’ve heard rumors that Iran has agreed to dilute its highly enriched uranium so maybe the US could count that as a win. Given they’ve demonstrated sufficient conventional deterrence they may feel that they don’t…

IIRC they had already agreed to dilute the HEU during the negotiations ongoing at the time Trump launched the most recent war / not war / excursion.

Yeah, the US overplayed its hand and is in a weak bargaining position and will likely have to accept less than what it could have had. Now with TACO Tuesday who could take his maximalist carpet nuking threats seriously anymore. I hope to be wrong but I doubt the ceasefire holds.

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Post by dyauspitr »

small_model wrote: post #19

"Iran's Supreme National Security Council announced that Iran has achieved a major victory, compelling the United States to accept its 10-point plan. Under this plan, the U.S. has committed to non-aggression, recognized Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, accepted Iran’s nuclear enrichment, lifted all primary and secondary sanctions, ended all Security Council and Board of Governors resolutions, agreed to pay…

So Trump completely capitulated then? Not like he had an option because the only other option was essentially genocide/mass murder.

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Post by outside1234 »

eclipticplane wrote: post #61
3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #43

"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." The ten point plan which had previously been rejected outright? The 10-point plan which leaves Iran in an incredibly better finan…

> what did the US gain out of this Market manipulation and the media largely forgetting about a certain set of files that reference many people in powerful positions.

Are you talking about the Epstein files that he is in?

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by dzonga »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #43

"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." The ten point plan which had previously been rejected outright? The 10-point plan which leaves Iran in an incredibly better finan…

some people got very very rich. like rich - that their great grandkids don't have to work.

that's the price of "freedom".

both sides get to save face - Trump says they won, his cronies n himself got rich. Iran gets a better deal than before. Israel gets rid of US bases in the Middle East via Iran.

of course the poor and downtrodden get shifted - that never changes.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by chatmasta »

Better article with text: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/07/trump-iran-w...

> Israel will also agree to the two-week ceasefire, Axios reported, citing an Israeli official, adding that the ceasefire would enter effect as soon as the blockade of the strait of Hormuz ceased

There’s the catch.

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

le-mark wrote: post #57
100ms wrote: post #48

I don't understand enough about the US system of government. Are there any hopes of seeing Trump unseated before his term is up? If not for the astonishing damage he's doing to the western world, then only for the sheer fatigue from having every media outlet saturated by him on a daily basis.

If the Dems win the house in the midterms he will be impeached again. If there are 60 votes in the senate he will be out. Dems are unlikely to win the senate, let alone 60 seats. It’s a bizarre situation in that US elections have such a huge impact on a world that has no say.

I really hope the democrats won’t start the impeachment nonsense showbusiness again and instead focus on actual policy that benefits people. I am very worried that Congress will go even lower and devolve into permanent investigations and impeachments while the country has actual serious problems that aren’t worked on.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by esafak »

Maken wrote: post #110
avidiax wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Barring something catastrophic happening, I would bet that nothing will unseat Trump until January 20, 2027, at 12:00 PM (noon). At that point, when J.D. Vance is inaugurated, he would be allowed to run and serve for 2 additional full terms (10 years total as president). Before that, his partial term would count as a full term, and he could only run, win and serve one additional term. This is all based on the 22nd Am…

Now that's a bleak picture of the future.

Look on the bright side; that picture respects terms limits.

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Post by dyauspitr »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #49
megamike wrote: post #31

Iran's 10-point plan includes: 1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again 2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire 3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon 4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran 5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies 6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz 7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship 8. Iran would split these fees with Oman 9. Iran t…

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