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Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by hmokiguess »

pizlonator wrote: post #154

It's messed up that Anthropic simultaneously claims to be a public benefit copro and is also picking who gets to benefit from their newly enhanced cybersecurity capabilities. It means that the economic benefit is going to the existing industry heavyweights. (And no, the Linux Foundation being in the list doesn't imply broad benefit to OSS. Linux Foundation has an agenda and will pick who benefits according to what is…

While I agree with you, in some ways I'd argue that this is just them being transparent on what probably would inevitably already happen at the scale of these corporate overlords and modern monarchs.

There will always be a more capable technology in the hands of the few who hold the power, they're just sharing that with the world more openly.

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by Flere-Imsaho »

pizlonator wrote: post #154

It's messed up that Anthropic simultaneously claims to be a public benefit copro and is also picking who gets to benefit from their newly enhanced cybersecurity capabilities. It means that the economic benefit is going to the existing industry heavyweights. (And no, the Linux Foundation being in the list doesn't imply broad benefit to OSS. Linux Foundation has an agenda and will pick who benefits according to what is…

If you're a maintainer, you can apply here:

https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss

... As mentioned in the article.

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by redfloatplane »

woeirua wrote: post #162
redfloatplane wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A thought experiment: It's April, 1991. Magically, some interface to Claude materialises in London. Do you think most people would think it was a sentient life form? How much do you think the interface matters - what if it looks like an android, or like a horse, or like a large bug, or a keyboard on wheels? I don't come down particularly hard on either side of the model sapience discussion, but I don't think dismissi…

If it was in an android or humanoid type body, even with limited bodily control, most people would think they are talking to Commander Data from Star Trek. I think Claude is sufficiently advanced that almost everyone in that era would've considered it AGI.

Assuming they would understand it as artificial - I think many people would think it's a human intelligence in a cyborg trenchcoat, and it would be hard to convince people it wasn't literally a guy named Claude who was an incredibly fast typist who had a million pre-cached templated answers for things.

But in general, yeah, I agree, I think they would think it was a sentient, conscious, emotional being. And then the question is - why do we not think that now?

As I said, I don't have a particularly strong opinion, but it's very interesting (and fun!) to think about.

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by baq »

Aperocky wrote: post #176
titzer wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the long term, you're right, but in the short term, it's going to be a bloodbath.

That's assuming the model is actually as good as they say it is. Given the amount of AI researchers over the past 3 years claiming supernatural capability from the LLM they have built, my bayesian skepticism is through the roof.

don't confuse bayesian skepticism with plain old contrarian bias. a true bayesian updates their priors, I'd say this is an appropriate time to do so. also don't confuse what they sell with what they have internally.

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by lelanthran »

pizlonator wrote: post #154

It's messed up that Anthropic simultaneously claims to be a public benefit copro and is also picking who gets to benefit from their newly enhanced cybersecurity capabilities. It means that the economic benefit is going to the existing industry heavyweights. (And no, the Linux Foundation being in the list doesn't imply broad benefit to OSS. Linux Foundation has an agenda and will pick who benefits according to what is…

Or (and hear me out), they are close to an IPO and want to ensure that there is a world-ending threat around which they can cluster the biggest names, with themselves leading that group.

I think I just broke my cynicism meter :-(

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by rakel_rakel »

> On the global stage, state-sponsored attacks from actors like China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia have threatened to compromise the infrastructure that underpins both civilian life and military readiness.

AITA for thinking that PRISM was probably the state sponsored program affecting civilian life the most? And that one state is missing from the list here?

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by wetpaws »

rakel_rakel wrote: post #196

> On the global stage, state-sponsored attacks from actors like China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia have threatened to compromise the infrastructure that underpins both civilian life and military readiness. AITA for thinking that PRISM was probably the state sponsored program affecting civilian life the most? And that one state is missing from the list here?

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Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by appcustodian2 »

himata4113 wrote: post #54
cbg0 wrote: post #17

One of the things I'm always looking at with new models released is long context performance, and based on the system card it seems like they've cracked it: GraphWalks BFS 256K-1M Mythos Opus GPT5.4 80.0% 38.7% 21.4%

this seems to be similar to gpt-pro, they just have a very large attention window (which is why it's so expensive to run) true attention window of most models is 8096 tokens.

source on the 8096 tokens number? i'm vaguely aware that some previous models attended more to the beginning and end of conversations which doesn't seem to fit a simple contiguous "attention window" within the greater context but would love to know more

Re: Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era

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Post by thorncorona »

pizlonator wrote: post #182
hector_vasquez wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Releasing the model to bad actors at the same time as the major OS, browser, and security companies would be one idea. But some might consider that "messed up" too, whatever you mean by that. But in terms of acting in the public benefit, it seems consistent to work with companies that can make significant impact on users' security. The stated goal of Project Glasswing is to "secure the world's most critical software,…

I don't trust a corpo to choose what is "most critical". That's what's messed up about it.

Let's let the California HSR committee do it instead!
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