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Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

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Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#151

Non open source and non local SAAS sandboxes are offensive to even try to launch. No one needs this and the only customers will be vibe coders who just don't know any better. There are teams building actual sandboxes like smolmachines, podman, colima and mre. At least be honest and put the virtualisation tech you are using as well as that its closed source SAAS on the landing page to safe people time.

> No one needs this

VMWare was acquired for $69Bn.

Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#153

do you think the industry is overfixated on startup times? what are better metrics people building with sandboxes should pay attention to

So first I don't, I think startup times are fundamentally really important. 5s is different than 1s is different than 500ms is different than 200ms and users notice.

I don't think people run real world benchmarks on what that coldstart really means though, like time to first response from a NextJS is a very important benchmark for Freestyle and we've spent a lot of time on it. While Daytona sandboxes boot faster than Freestyle ones our first response is an order of magnitude ahead of theirs.

I think another important one is concurrency: In worst case scenarios how many VMs can you get from a provider in a 5 second period is important.

I also think not enough time is spent on "Does it actually work on this VM", stuff like postgres, redis, ntftables, complex linux binaries that are hard to run need to work on these sandboxes because AI is going to need them and I don't think there has really been a feature-bench system yet.

Networking/snapshotting/persistence characteristics all also need to come into this.

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Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#154
post #141

Very nice, congrats! One thing: >Freestyle is the only sandbox provider with built-in multi-tenant git hosting — create thousands of repos via API and pair them directly with sandboxes for seamless code management. Maybe I’m just stupid, but I don’t know what this means. I initially thought I’m your target audience but after failing to understand this part I’m thinking maybe I’m not? I honestly don’t know.

If git isn't for you we'd still love to support you. We believe to build the sandboxes for coding agents you also need to provide git repos for them so we do that as well. You can easily say give me this vm with these 3 repos and these permissions with us. But that said, the sandbox stands on its own without it.

I think you should just explain that part more clearly: why would they want you to host git repos on their behalf.

Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#155
I was intrigued to try but your web app is so extremely slow, it takes up to 30+ seconds to move from one tab to the next. Not exactly selling your point of being a super fast provisioning service. Another thing I am wondering. You seem to be selling this as VMs configurable from node/bun. Wouldn't a CLI make more sense here?

Another question: How hard do you think it'll be to integrate this with something like Claude Code. ie: /resume in claude code both return your session and wake up your vm. Or even better /resume from freestyle and have your claude code session open where you left it.

Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#157
post #155

I was intrigued to try but your web app is so extremely slow, it takes up to 30+ seconds to move from one tab to the next. Not exactly selling your point of being a super fast provisioning service. Another thing I am wondering. You seem to be selling this as VMs configurable from node/bun. Wouldn't a CLI make more sense here? Another question: How hard do you think it'll be to integrate this with something like Claud…

I'm not sure what you saw as slow, I'd love to improve it. Do you mean the dashboard?

We're built as an API for platforms to build on rather than tool for individual developers. Oriented at platform orchestrating tens of thousands at VMs rather than individuals using CLI. We also have a CLI but its primarily a debugging and testing tool.

Resuming a freestyle VM with claude code in it will just work. You can do that via SSH.

Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#158
post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If git isn't for you we'd still love to support you. We believe to build the sandboxes for coding agents you also need to provide git repos for them so we do that as well. You can easily say give me this vm with these 3 repos and these permissions with us. But that said, the sandbox stands on its own without it.

I think you should just explain that part more clearly: why would they want you to host git repos on their behalf.

Freestyle isn't designed for an individual engineer working on their Github repos. Its designed for platforms building coding agents that want to take the place of Github all together. Those platforms need some source of truth alongside the VMs, just like how you don't store all of your important documents on your personal computer. That is why we offer git.

Re: Launch HN: Freestyle – Sandboxes for Coding Agents

#159
post #141

Very nice, congrats! One thing: >Freestyle is the only sandbox provider with built-in multi-tenant git hosting — create thousands of repos via API and pair them directly with sandboxes for seamless code management. Maybe I’m just stupid, but I don’t know what this means. I initially thought I’m your target audience but after failing to understand this part I’m thinking maybe I’m not? I honestly don’t know.

If git isn't for you we'd still love to support you. We believe to build the sandboxes for coding agents you also need to provide git repos for them so we do that as well. You can easily say give me this vm with these 3 repos and these permissions with us. But that said, the sandbox stands on its own without it.

It’s difficult to understand the content and what the product actually is, as I’ve also mentioned in another reply. I think the product is probably great, but you need to improve the communication, it’s too abstract.

I don’t know what “give each sandbox a unique git repository” does for me in practice, what problem it solves.

You’re not providing any practical problems your product is intended to solve.

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