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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by phillipcarter »

flexagoon wrote: post #121
schappim wrote: post #106

Microsoft is not alone in this. Apple does the same thing! There is Siri on iPhone, Mac, Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod, Apple TV, and CarPlay and are all different different incarnation of Siri (with different capabilities). Then there is everything else like the Siri Remote, Siri Suggestions (and all their types: Siri apps suggestions, Maps, keyboard, Share Sheet, etc), Siri Shortcuts, and Siri Knowledge (WolframAlp…

Idk, at least in Apple's case it all refers to a voice assistant and some of the features integrated with it. If they were like MS, they would add Siri into everything and then call it "Siri Cloud", "Siri Messages", etc (if they were even more like MS, iMessage would be "Siri 365 Communication Suite")

In Microsoft's case it refers to an LLM system with some features integrated.

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Post by ivanjermakov »

tonypapousek wrote: post #134
BirAdam wrote: post #40

The only Microsoft products I’ve actively heard people desire within the last 5 years are VSCode and Excel. Microsoft have so severely damaged their brand that they’ve finally shed the image of oddly gray Dell midtowers running XP on Pentium 4.

Not sure they count as “products” in this context, but TypeScript and Playwright are still nice.

And LSP, but because of TypeScript.

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Post by owlninja »

yreg wrote: post #76
hamasho wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes sense. And Google is its own way to name all AI products “Gemini”.

Which is unusually simple. I would expect Google to use 10 more marketing names simultaneously without any logic to the product lines.

Didn't it start as Bard?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by lloydatkinson »

ValentineC wrote: post #51
lateforwork wrote: post #14

Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

> Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. This comment really helps me put things in perspective. I'm guess now that it's Microsoft's way of naming their LLM-powered products/features, the same way "Azure" is basically their codename for "cloud".

I’ve absolutely seen adverts on TV in the UK by Microsoft advertising Microsoft Cloud. Azure was not mentioned anywhere…

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by rhet0rica »

layer8 wrote: post #144
thedelanyo wrote: post #73

Someone said - in Linux, everything is a file. In Microsoft, everything is a copilot. Lol.

We are still missing "Windows Subsystem for Copilot".

Never understood this about Windows Subsystem for Linux naming, nor its predecessor Windows Services for Unix. Surely Linux is the subsystem running on Windows? Should we now reinterpret Windows for Workgroups as a means of astrally projecting your organization inside Windows 3.11?! The dative only works ONE way, Microsoft!

I guess they really just didn't want a product name to start with the name of a competitor's product. I bet Copilot can fix this...

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Post by chatmasta »

esafak wrote: post #165
maille wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can I learn that clever prompting?

Try to pack as much clear work into your prompt as you can so you don't go back and forth.

Do hacks like “read prompt.md, and follow its instructions. When you’re done, read it again and follow its instructions.” And then you have some background process appending to the file to keep it warm and you just keep writing there?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by mynameisash »

IshKebab wrote: post #70
lateforwork wrote: post #14

Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

Yeah imagine if they had unique product names for "AI in OneDrive", "AI in SharePoint", "AI in Outlook"... That would be even more ridiculous.

I think this is the right answer. I am frustrated by Copilot and by many aspects of AI, but to me it seems like straightforward branding: you use a Microsoft product, you want to use AI in it, you look for Copilot (name and/or icon).

To me, the issue isn't that they've named so many things 'Copilot' but rather that Copilot is in every goddamn product.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by layer8 »

rhet0rica wrote: post #175
layer8 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are still missing "Windows Subsystem for Copilot".

Never understood this about Windows Subsystem for Linux naming, nor its predecessor Windows Services for Unix. Surely Linux is the subsystem running on Windows? Should we now reinterpret Windows for Workgroups as a means of astrally projecting your organization inside Windows 3.11?! The dative only works ONE way, Microsoft! I guess they really just didn't want a product name to start with the name of a competitor's p…

A "Windows subsystem" is a specific interface between user-mode applications and the Windows kernel. It's a technical notion that exists in Windows. So there are different Windows subsystems for different types of applications. The naming convention is "Windows subsystem for ". It makes more sense when you read it as "Windows subsystem for [running] Linux [applications]".

WSL2 deviates from the native concept of what a Windows subsystem is; it is named that way because it is the successor of the original WSL.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by eterm »

morkalork wrote: post #157
firefoxd wrote: post #155

Just this last week, I wrote about the confusion this creates in the workplace[0]. My coworker said "copilot" literally referring to any code assistant, the same way we say bandaid or kleenex. I thought he was talking about Copilot, the one I see nagging me on Microsoft teams. We had a full discussion about completely different tools without realizing it. [0]: https://idiallo.com/blog/what-is-copilot-exactly [1]: htt…

What's fun is getting into the co-pilot comparison conversational because they are definitely not all equal. Co-pilot 365 is a donkey for one

I refuse to believe any are as bad as the Azure Portal one.

It feels like pre-GPT levels of smart.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

layer8 wrote: post #145
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which was arguably more problematic. Are you referring to a web address or a Microsoft product?

More importantly, you couldn't usefully search for it with the search engines of the time.

I wonder how many human lifetimes of effort have been wasted due to poor naming decisions by Microsoft.
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