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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Ignoring the disaster that is their branding/naming. Copilot is _amazing_. Everyone is hyping about Claude, but I'm way more productive with the copilot cli. The copilot cloud agent is great, and copilot code review is great (we also tried the new very expensive claude code review - it was slow and expensive). Forget that it's Microsoft, forget that everything is Copilot and go and give it a shot.

maybe a different thing but trying to work with copilot as part of the microsoft apps (e.g. automation flows) feels like it has zero reasoning ability, just says the same thing over and over like a chatbot rather than LLM.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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The Copilot in Visual Studio (Code) is not the same as Microsoft's Copilot. The former is GitHub's AI product and the latter is Microsoft's AI product. You can tell them apart because GitHub Copilot's icon is a helmet with goggles and Microsoft Copilot's icon is a colourful swirl thing. It's wildly confusing branding not only because they're identically-named things that both repackage OpenAI's LLMs, but also because…

And let’s not forget that Visual Studio Code (the IDE) is not Visual Studio (the IDE).

This is my biggest frustration as a full time .NET developer. Its especially worse when you're searching for Visual Studio (IDE) specifics, and get results for VS Code. It bewilders me why a company that owns a search engine names their products so poorly.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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post #68

Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

It makes sense. And Google is its own way to name all AI products “Gemini”.

I think they'll more likely launch competing AI projects like 'Aquarius' and 'Doh' or something

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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> they're identically-named things that both repackage OpenAI's LLMs Haven't tried it yet but the GitHub Copilot extension for VSCode also seems to integrate Claude, Gemini and other non-OAI stuff

They do, and those models are served by Microsoft. You pay a premium per “request” (what that means is not fully clear to me) for certain models. If you use the native chat extension in VSCode for GitHub CoPilot, with Opus model selected, you are not paying Anthropic. This counts against your GitHub Copilot subscription. The Claude Code extension for VSCode from Anthropic will use your Claude subscription. But honest…

The best non-Clude Code CLI integration by far has been Zed's and I prefer Zed over what VS Code has become.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

#106
Microsoft is not alone in this. Apple does the same thing!

There is Siri on iPhone, Mac, Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod, Apple TV, and CarPlay and are all different different incarnation of Siri (with different capabilities). Then there is everything else like the Siri Remote, Siri Suggestions (and all their types: Siri apps suggestions, Maps, keyboard, Share Sheet, etc), Siri Shortcuts, and Siri Knowledge (WolframAlpha + Wikipedia + other databases?).

I'm sure 75% of these will be rebranded "Apple Intelligence" by the end of the year...

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

#107

Its annoying especially since Copilot exists in Visual Studio (Code too I believe) and its not exactly "the same" thing as far as I can tell. I really hate Microsoft's naming conventions. At least call that one Copilot for Devs or something more meaningful.

The Copilot in Visual Studio (Code) is not the same as Microsoft's Copilot. The former is GitHub's AI product and the latter is Microsoft's AI product. You can tell them apart because GitHub Copilot's icon is a helmet with goggles and Microsoft Copilot's icon is a colourful swirl thing. It's wildly confusing branding not only because they're identically-named things that both repackage OpenAI's LLMs, but also because…

Copilot for Visual Studio (IDE) has multiple models, not just OpenAI models, it also includes Claude. It is basically a competitor to JetBrains AI.

The only good "AI" editor that supports Claude Code natively has so far been Zed. It's not PERFECT, but it has been the best experience short of just running Claude Code directly in the CLI.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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It reminds me of around 2002 when Microsoft named everything ".net".

"Microsoft Surface" ...

If had first meant a coffee table form factor PC with touch screen and special software, which was able to sense special objects placed on top of it. Then that was renamed to "PixelSense" [1] and "Surface" instead got put on a line of touchscreen tablet form factor PCs launched together with Windows 8. OK, reusing a strong name for a product line expected to sell more, and which still fit the theme made sense.

.. but then the brand was also put on laptops, convertibles, desktop PC and an Android phone ... eh, OK, but at least those also had touch screens.

... but then the brand was also put on generic peripherals: keyboard, mouse, headphones, earbuds, etc. which diluted the brand to mean practically nothing. For example, a search for "surface keyboard", could result in a "type cover" for some kind of tablet PC or a keyboard intended for desktop computers.

Microsoft later did the same with the "Microsoft Sculpt" brand. It was first a compact curved "sculpted" ergonomic keyboard with chiclet keys and an ergonomic mouse that were most often sold as a set. That got quite popular and so the brand achieved recognition. But later, Microsoft decided to reuse that brand for completely generic peripherals with no special ergonomic designs whatsoever.

BTW. Not long after, Microsoft also released products with the similarly ungoogleable names "Microsoft Bluetooth Keyboard" and "Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PixelSense

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Git is a distributed source control system. It's open source and you can use it to version source code on your drive and/or a remote git repository. Github is one of the most popular git repository hosts. In addition to source repositories, it has other services like issue tracking and wikis. A while back, Microsoft bought Github. "Github Copilot" is a service you can buy (with limited free sku) from Github that adds…

Sidenote but I don't get why you would want to pay github to run Claude on your code. Yeah github pays Claude but what's the point ?

I use it because they offer absurdly cheap prices that they're clearly losing money on. I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot.
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