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The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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I would respect Ed (and Gary Marcus) more if they would concede the occasional point. But everything AI is always a hyperbolic and unqualified disaster. I suppose that's what the audience wants. "every bit of AI demand ... that exists only exists due to subsidies" Really? NOBODY would pay whatever the fully-loaded cost is? What about people running local models on their own GPUs? Are they being subsidized too?

Your loss. Dude is on the cutting edge and 90% of Silicon Valley is in a cult.

Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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Every time these shops seem to be out of runway, they do another raise[1]. The investor class is far from running out of funds to support this adventure. They will run out of patience or find the shiny new thing before there's a liquidity crisis. I suspect a good portion of the cash pulled from private credit goes towards further funding of the AI trade.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/technology/openai-12-bill...

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Endgame is IPOing those AI companies and getting them on indexes, forcing index funds to buy them, which seemed to be evergreen investment category, but I’m not so sure anymore.. Did somebody say crypto?

Their backers certainly enough money and political muscle to force this outcome.

Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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LLMs are capable and able to produce value. There's no questioning that - anyone who says otherwise is in absolute denial. The problem is.... the amount invested makes zero sense and the returns needed to justify the valuations of these firms won't come. The players in the Tech industry in general have gotten way too ahead of themselves. When this all settles the big danger for MSFT, Google, Meta etc is that investor…

Oh yeah? What value have they generated? How is it valuable to rehash existing data in a non-deterministic stream of nonsense?

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Great writeup. Only thing I din't see in here was an analysis of the impact of players like Talaas[1] and their stupid faster hardware LLMs. I feel like it could be majorly disruptive, but idk if it's going to prolong the apocalypse or bring it about sooner -- or if it's a big nothing burger. But the demo[2] is super cool. [1]: https://taalas.com [2]: https://chatjimmy.ai/

I'm bullist for something like talaas to get smaller and easy to put in a desktop. Imagine an RPG where NPCs.... are way more complex and the entire game is very non deterministic.

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LLMs are capable and able to produce value. There's no questioning that - anyone who says otherwise is in absolute denial. The problem is.... the amount invested makes zero sense and the returns needed to justify the valuations of these firms won't come. The players in the Tech industry in general have gotten way too ahead of themselves. When this all settles the big danger for MSFT, Google, Meta etc is that investor…

Oh yeah? What value have they generated? How is it valuable to rehash existing data in a non-deterministic stream of nonsense?

I used Grok heavily to generate a 5min marketing video that got MP's to back my project.

So... go ahead. Try and claim Im lying. I pity you - I'm not lying.

Do I care about whether xAI/Grok survives as a going concern? Absolutely not. Did it generate value for me? Absolutely yes.

Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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And this is all before the AI industry starts to feel the real impact of the ongoing oil (and helium) shock that Trump caused for no coherent reason. Going to be an interesting next couple of years...

It’s gonna be funny as long as taxpayers don’t end up bailing the likes of scam Altman. I wouldn’t put it past Trump and the GOP to absolutely loot the place on their way out pre-November and cut their tech bros in on the action. But that means the VC SF dipshits better speedrun this collapse because they’ve got exactly 7 months to become a “systemic risk” to the US economy.

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post #14
post #7

LLMs are capable and able to produce value. There's no questioning that - anyone who says otherwise is in absolute denial. The problem is.... the amount invested makes zero sense and the returns needed to justify the valuations of these firms won't come. The players in the Tech industry in general have gotten way too ahead of themselves. When this all settles the big danger for MSFT, Google, Meta etc is that investor…

Oh yeah? What value have they generated? How is it valuable to rehash existing data in a non-deterministic stream of nonsense?

Its not rehashing, its recombining and mixing any concept ever in minutes. If you cant find value in that you're not being creative enough

Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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Every time these shops seem to be out of runway, they do another raise[1]. The investor class is far from running out of funds to support this adventure. They will run out of patience or find the shiny new thing before there's a liquidity crisis. I suspect a good portion of the cash pulled from private credit goes towards further funding of the AI trade. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/technology/openai-12-bil…

Inveator class is loving the stress on the normal worker ai is causing and making them work harder for fear of layoffs

Re: The Subprime AI Crisis Is Here

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post #7

LLMs are capable and able to produce value. There's no questioning that - anyone who says otherwise is in absolute denial. The problem is.... the amount invested makes zero sense and the returns needed to justify the valuations of these firms won't come. The players in the Tech industry in general have gotten way too ahead of themselves. When this all settles the big danger for MSFT, Google, Meta etc is that investor…

Define "value", because is seems pretty negative value at the moment.
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