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During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.
That plus likely a miscalculation...pushing into territory that is more contested than believed
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> It's unclear what happened here exactly. It really isn't. A huge portion of Iran's air defenses are designed for road-mobility and pop-up attacks instead of long-term point defense, encompassing hundreds of launchers total: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Islam... Military strategists long warned that air campaigns flying over South Iran would have to contend with passively-guided SAMs and MA…
Considered that this is the first jet shot down in the entire war? "High mobility SAMs" alone completely fails to explain it. They had high mobility SAMs for the entire war, with nothing to show for it. Something else must have happened there.
> They had high mobility SAMs for the entire war, with nothing to show for it.
This is certainly something to show for it. Iran's air defenses are not like Israel's or Qatar's, they don't have the money or security to build expensive anti-ballistic layers for air defense. These smaller, road-mobile systems are intended to exploit an overextending enemy, and for that purpose they're apparently working quite well.
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Don't be intentionally obtuse. They've been saying this for over four decades and have spent at least tens of billions of dollars in their quest to make it happen. Besides attacking Israel.
Saying things and even spending to try to make it happen doesn't mean they were even close to being able to actually do it. Under Obama we had an agreement which had rigorous inspection details to prevent them developing nuclear weapons. Trump tore that all up in his first term.
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I’m just hoping Schumer doesn’t advocate for merging with IDF, if the GOP loses the majority
Joe and Eileen Bailey[1] support the war, which is why Schumer is staying tight-lipped. 1. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/19/imaginary-frie...
The US Army becoming Israel’s strike force, at the hands of rapist, what a time to be alive
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You can't really take out "the whole" air defense system because there will always be folks out with MANPAD-type things, those will score hits on occasion. That's probably what we saw here. I doubt MANPADs were nearly as common in the early 90s as they are today.
True but without radar they have a relatively difficult task of being out there setup and waiting for a fast moving jet to pass within range. Compare that to Ukraine defending it's skies with NATO (well mostly French IIRC) AWACS feeding early data which is what made MANPADS in Ukraine so effective against Russian attacks.
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The ship was an unarmed vessel on its way to a goodwill visit to Sri Lanka and coming from an international maritime exercise hosted by India, which the United States also attended and participated in. The US torpedoed it, and when it sank, the US did not apparently attempt to rescue any of the Dena's crew. Fortunately, Sri Lanka showed up and saved 30 people. Mind you, the details of war are not always clear. The US…
The US is busy shooting “drug boats” with no evidence, that is who they are now
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a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Israel, etc). Total cost is so much bigger, it is staggering. The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind. in ad…
> Iron Dome relied on these radars — all blind now. Iron Dome’s primary fire-control radar is the Israeli EL/M-2084 Multi-Mission Radar, not the USA’s AN/FPS-132
the evidence is Alert system may not even work for missiles, or give very short warning (seconds to 1 minute instead of the usual 10 minutes)
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-03-...
If we are speaking of interception/penetration, these are also solved by Iran using several strategies that Israel/CENTCOM did not expect:
1. use of cluster munitions
2. exhaustion of expensive interceptor inventory (exchanging $7000 shahed drone for $3-5 mln worth of PAC-3 interceptors)
3. Use of penetration aids
4. Changing trajectory at the terminal stage
5. coordinating swarm attacks (let AD to intercept SRBMs, while the real damage is caused by abundant cheap Shaheds that fly too slow and low to be detected)
https://www.csis.org/analysis/unpacking-irans-drone-campaign...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-cluster-b...
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The "50,000 murdered protesters" is blatant atrocity propaganda to launder the actual mass murder of civilians and failed illegal regime change war by the United States and Israel. Nothing more. It is a lie told with the blackest of intentions. "Who cares if we murdered 170 schools girls? The evil regime murdered 50 gorillian civilians so it's okay when we do it!"
there are names of people killed, and videos of hangings, and videos of basij forces shooting at people on the streets, easy to find. there are videos of Iranians celebrating the bombing of regime symbols – saying all of its "atrocity propaganda" doesn’t make it not be true.