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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the 2026 Iran war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_an... Iran: 40, Israel: 18, US: 36, Others: 7

It's a bit weird counting drones in the same list as expensive fighter jets (and other expensive planes).

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Republicans in congress support it. It is not about congress not having abstract spine. It is about republican congressmen actively supporting all of this.

Plot twist: The Dem leadership (Schumer, Jeffries, et al) also supports this. That's why their main complaints have been procedural: "Why didn't you come to us first with your plans?". And why they slow-walked the vote on a war powers act.

The dems have no power against a unified GOP front, and they already look pretty weak on issues like this. They are trying to figure out how they can mollify their base while attracting enough centrist voters to retake Congress later this year. I don't care for the dem leadership but I feel a little sympathy for them. Catering to their loudest supporters is a pretty big reason they are the minority party right now.

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During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

I also saw some news saying an F-35 was possibly hit--but I can't find any reasonable-seeming sources to confirm that. Maybe someone here knows more?

an F-35 was hit but made it back to base.

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If you go over 3000m then manpads are not useful I think.

Sure, but there are videos of US war planes strafing, like that near hit clip.

Yeah I have seen the clip with Iran polices firing at the UH-60s, which is very concerning. Sure SIGINT makes sure there is no serious AD but there is no way to guarantee that there is no MANPADs somewhere close.

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> Iran has been buying and building all of this military infrastructure at the expense of living conditions for its people Iran spends about 2.5% of its GDP on defense, compared to USA at around 3.5%. How much should they be spending? https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locat...

Almost half of the economy is controlled by the IRGC: https://fortune.com/2026/03/02/iran-islamic-revolutionary-gu...

Which is a logical result of decades of sanctions, allowing only the insiders to profit from the country's ressources while the common man is bared from providing an alternative. Sanctions do not work and only entrench regimes, as we see in Russia, Cuba, North Korea and now Iran.

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The US has lost mutiple KC-125 tankers and an E3 as well, although those were destroyed ont he ground rather than shot down. building all of this military infrastructure at the expense of living conditions for its people Just yesterday, Trump was talking about another $1.5 trillion for defense in the coming fiscal year, and saying the US can't afford things like daycare, medicare etc. Iran's military budget as a % of…

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US welfare system seems to contain a lot of fraud, waste, abuse and grift across the board, so this will be a good chance to cleanse the system of fraud.

Taking money from social programs and piling into the military which contains "a lot of fraud, waste, abuse and grift across the board", certainly is a choice. Sort of the opposite of a smart choice, but definitely a choice for sure.

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There's a very strange problem with this whole thing where, of course, whatever these powerful people have done behind closed doors that is illegal and exploitative and harmful is terrible and they should be put to justice. However, if the direction of the country is being seriously altered via blackmail, IMO that is many orders of magnitude worse than anything they could have done. Like we are currently bombing yet…

That creates a far worse problem down the line because they will just do it again, more publicly. Really the rot set in with the pardons of Nixon and Oliver North.

Can you justify that assertion? How would they do it again, more publicly?

It's not like a blackmail ring is that easy to set up, it seems to have taken a lot of heavy lifting to get this one going.

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I think they're talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-ousts-army-chief-of-sta... > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has asked Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George to step down and take immediate retirement, sources familiar with the decision told CBS News... > Two other Army officers were removed from their roles, according to three sources familiar with the matter: Gen. David Hodne, who led the Army's Tr…

> headed the Army's Chaplain Corps

Why this guy? Makes me speculate that it is entirely a political purge where they are trying to groom the military leadership to be entirely filled with loyalists rather than professional soldiers. As a veteran I find this very disheartening.

And of course the first thing the next administration will be obliged to do is fire this cadre and build another, which will fuel the grievances and set up the following cycle. Sigh.

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List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the 2026 Iran war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_an... Iran: 40, Israel: 18, US: 36, Others: 7

It's a bit weird counting drones in the same list as expensive fighter jets (and other expensive planes).

MQ-9s are ~$30 million USD and are strike capable.
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