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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by calculatte »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #111
user_7832 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hate to say it and sound so "conspiracy-like", but I no longer can trust what the current US administration is saying. Ever since the path of a hurricane was redrawn with a sharpie, it's been... unusual.

Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.

Or the bootlicker olympics for those who want everyone else to ignore the constant lies because they think bigger, more powerful government is utopian.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by cpursley »

vorpalhex wrote: post #104
ceejayoz wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And CENTCOM's lying about it. https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622

That tweet is from yesterday. Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.

"We"

Very cool that you have a side hustle as a US fighter jet pilot!

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by ifyoubuildit »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #111
user_7832 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hate to say it and sound so "conspiracy-like", but I no longer can trust what the current US administration is saying. Ever since the path of a hurricane was redrawn with a sharpie, it's been... unusual.

Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.

Do you have some reasons for hope for the cynics in the crowd?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tristanj »

ceejayoz wrote: post #101
rhcom2 wrote: post #97

One crew member rescued, other is still MIA and being actively searched for https://www.axios.com/2026/04/03/iran-us-fighter-shot-down

And CENTCOM's lying about it. https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622

No, that tweet is from 20 hours ago, and is about a separate incident which happened two days ago over Qeshm Island in the Strait of Hormuz.

The current F-15 crash incident happened today near the city of Lali, in Iran’s Khuzestan Province.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #123
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.

Do you have some reasons for hope for the cynics in the crowd?

Not really. Just that trust ain't binary and the govt is made of people. I don't like this admin but this too shall pass. Cultivate your garden. Electing bad people has consequences.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by peyton »

dragonwriter wrote: post #106
ceejayoz wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And CENTCOM's lying about it. https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622

The US military is in the middle of a top-level political purge; both honesty and competence as an institution will be below normal levels for the forseeable future, and honesty about sensitive operations during wartime is never much even as a baseline.

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by 0x_rs »

ceejayoz wrote: post #99
uticus wrote: post #5

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It's breaking news...meaning it may be inaccurate. CENTCOM certainly is saying it's false [0]. But there are enough signs of it being genuine, to be concerning at this stage. Flying low over Iran at this point is planned, expensive "standoff" munitions were planned to give way to more accurate and less expensive munitions once air superiority was reached - which U.S. has been claiming has happened for a while now. [0…

Update: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/us-fighter-jet-went-ir... > An F-15 fighter jet pilot has been rescued alive by the U.S. military after their aircraft went down over Iran, a U.S. official said Friday. > White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said President Donald Trump had been briefed on the incident — the latest dramatic development in the war, now more than a month old. CENTCOM lied.

The government would never lie: the "damaged" plane was already accounted for, just in the ground, in enemy territory.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by flowerthoughts »

roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

Surely SAMs have improved since 1991? Have the F-15s improved significantly? (I know nothing about military stuff.)

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by serf »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #115
readthenotes1 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That has been (rightly) said every year there has been a current US administration. It is not a conspiracy theory if it's true. And no, it's not "cynicism Olympics", it's observation.

Right on cue!

I wouldn't be so pleased with myself over such "You will get wet in a rainstorm." style predictions.

truths from different angles that are at odds with one another produce mistrust and thoughts of conspiracy. We have more of that now than we have ever had, ever. It doesn't take Nostradamus to point to the trend.

tl;dr : Gee, where did this mistrust in the current government come from? I'd point but I don't have that many hands.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by e-khadem »

buildsjets wrote: post #119
vorpalhex wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That tweet is from yesterday. Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.

And they have not edited it or taken it down... why?

Because almost all of the people inside Iran have been disconnected for the past 35 days [1]. And believe it or not, they are texting these news live to all mobile phones on a daily basis as well. Some regime supporters believe it, because the want to believe it, they need to believe it. Just in the past 24 hours I have received 5 different messages from different organizations claiming victory and damage to US / Israel assets.

Just for a quick laugh, look at the official (Iranian) president's letter to the American people published yesterday [2]. The font changes between the paragraphs!

[1] https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542

[2] https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20

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