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No, we actually train to be tortured and held if caught, but everyone knows the risks before you take off. Captured marines or soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, we’re clear eyed about it.
And lied to about the reasons of the war. Now they even lie about it being a war, while they claim they have already won the war, that isn’t a war.
F-15E jet shot down over Iran
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That is assuming Iran holds itself to the Geneva conventions, which ... seems like an extremely risky bet to make.
The US doesn't hold itself to the conventions, why should the country it started a war of aggression with?
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That is assuming Iran holds itself to the Geneva conventions, which ... seems like an extremely risky bet to make.
Prisoner exchanges are a pretty strong motivator for any group, even hardline ones. If the Taliban was up for exchanges I think the IRGC is pretty likely to want to keep prisoners for that too.
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The US doesn't hold itself to the conventions, why should the country it started a war of aggression with?
If you throw away your principles because you are fighting an unprincipled enemy, you are no better than them.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, we actually train to be tortured and held if caught, but everyone knows the risks before you take off. Captured marines or soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, we’re clear eyed about it.
And lied to about the reasons of the war. Now they even lie about it being a war, while they claim they have already won the war, that isn’t a war.
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> equipped with some truly obsolete technology aboard. So I guess the US won't have any issues replacing it at a cheaper cost (as far as I understood that one cost $500 million, give or take).
The prototype E-7 cost $2 billion. It's a 737 with some radios.
Prototype price isn't really that meaningful
(Also it's a 767 not a 737, that was the E-3 I think.)
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#77Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.
Prisoner of war, not hostage. edit: I'm baffled by the amount of downvotes pointing out the objectively correct terminology can get. Its not a matter of opinion, military personnel captured by the enemy are pow no matter their treatment. A hostage, by definition, has been abducted.
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#78I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK. I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?
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Downvoters, care to explain? Seriously, it's been sitting on this for entire month and now, all of a sudden, rolled out antiaircraft defense? What's going on?
Because it obviously doesn't have the capability. Similar to how the US has no capability to "win" from the air only.
Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran
#80Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.