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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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post #38

the last time US wanted some country to reset back to Stone Age the same thing happened. turn out those aircrafts are not undefeatable at all.

It's pretty normal for planes to go down in a war. They've flown 5000+ sorties, it's a pretty huge accomplishment this is the first one lost over Iran. Especially considering all of the last decade's speculation about how tough attacking Iran would be.

You'll never be able to fully suppress all of their manpads. Even if you destroy the bulk of their air defence network.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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It reminds me of a Age of Empires campaign I played at a LAN from a long while back, where the game went on for 20 hours and ended in a stalemate between an atomic age player and a very primitive age player. The atomic player had total control of the map, they were carpet bombing the entire thing with nuclear weapons. But they could only create them so fast while the primitive player was running around on horses, jus…

I don't remember Age of Empires having an atomic age?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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post #29

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

Do they train for a “no quarter“ conflict where injured or surrendered combatants are killed?

Hegseth is not in charge of the Iranian military.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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post #29

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

Do they train for a “no quarter“ conflict where injured or surrendered combatants are killed?

No, we actually train to be tortured and held if caught, but everyone knows the risks before you take off. Captured marines or soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, we’re clear eyed about it.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

#59
I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK.

I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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post #50
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that video it seems like something shoots at the missile is what I'm saying from the F35 Someone said maybe a form of DIRCM

You're talking about a single "dash" on the frame before it goes all white. First question, if it were a laser, would be what exactly are you seeing there? A laser from the side is invisible, there'd need to be dust there, or the air would need to have turned into plasma. I don't think either makes that much sense. Second question/problem would be… it would have failed/be malfunctioning because — — pretty much all AA…

Yeah I was also thinking the the dash might be the missile itself

The single exhaust plume does become multiple on the F35 suggesting damage

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