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Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by somat »

stackskipton wrote: post #41

Everyone likes to point and laugh, sure, I'm getting a chuckle as well. However, on more practical level, what are other options? Outlook, the desktop application works really well with local copies, is pretty low bandwidth and very familiar to end users. IMAP with Thunderbird is probably only other option that would satisfy the requirements. EDIT: Yes they need to get email in space. It's easy way to send documents…

Email(smtp) is not a bad choice for messaging in space(or anywhere really) it is a well understood robust protocol designed in a time when all networks were slow and intermittent. Exactly what you need in space.

IMAP probably not so much, It depends too much on having a good network. unless the imap server is on the spaceship(heh, spaceSHIP, that is an optimistic term, but it is all we have, so going with it), I would not expect it to work all that well.

I am not very familiar with outlooks game, Historically my beef with with it and thunderbird was their local data store, I mean it was not strictly speaking bad, but I was like "we have this great Maildir spec, why are you using this propriety database that is prone to corruption, even if you don't like Maildir million files approach at least use sqlite"

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #49
pinum wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At its current distance, best case RTT would be about 420ms

That wouldn't be terrible to use. I feel like I've done worse supporting in-cab computers on fleet vehicles across 3G cellular. Keyboard shortcuts and "caching" the state of the remote client in your mind are the keys to doing that work.

Yup. 57kbps transatlantic modem connection to a remote desktop in some country with poor telephone connectivity was probably even worse. Never want to have to do that again!

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by ashton314 »

maxerickson wrote: post #85
Henchman21 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they “need” email access in the first place?! What the actual fuck.

Why the poverty mindset? If we are gonna joy ride around the moon we should at least do it in style.

The poverty mindset is that you still need to check your mail while riding around the moon. Style would be no email at all.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

ramesh31 wrote: post #11
rich_sasha wrote: post #9

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>"Is it just me that finds it terrifying that theres any Windows bits on a spaceship?" SpaceX Crew Dragon console interfaces are entirely React apps

Good! I've long said that Embedded UIs should be transitioning to being locally hosted webapps for a variety of reasons.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by chasd00 »

babypuncher wrote: post #28
dgb23 wrote: post #22

Bashing on MS products and on ReactJS (apparently used by spacex UIs) is a common pastime here and I'm guilty of it myself. But here we're talking about actual space rockets flying to space with humans in them. My expectation would be that something like https://tigerstyle.dev/ would be followed or the NASA rules linked from there https://spinroot.com/gerard/pdf/P10.pdf

this is a crew laptop and not a mission critical computer at all.

since the astronauts are asking about it i'm guessing it wasn't snuck onboard. Sneaking stuff on to spacecraft to play with on the moon was a thing, i think one of the Apollo astronauts smuggled a golf club and balls to hit on the moon.

(I realize this mission is to only orbit and not land on the moon)

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

kotaKat wrote: post #26
ramesh31 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"Is it just me that finds it terrifying that theres any Windows bits on a spaceship?" SpaceX Crew Dragon console interfaces are entirely React apps

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41655299 This comment makes it feel a lot safer, when you think about it. "Web browsers are historically known for crashing, but that's partly because they have to handle every page on the whole Internet. A static system with the same browser running a single website, heavily tested, may be reliable enough for our needs." When you've also built up the metal that you're running tha…

It's fine if you ignore supply chain attacks on npm packages.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by shoxidizer »

Henchman21 wrote: post #79
maxerickson wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What should they use for email?

Why do they “need” email access in the first place?! What the actual fuck.

They're officers and researchers strapped into their seats for 10 days, what could they be doing that doesn't involve email
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