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U.S. exempts oil industry from protecting Gulf animals, for 'national security'

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"Definitive of what capitalism is, this separation severely limits the scope of the political. Devolving vast aspects of social life to the rule of “the market” (in reality, to large corporations), it declares them off-limits to democratic decision-making, collective action, and public control. Its very structure, therefore, deprives us of the ability to decide collectively exactly what and how much we want to produc…

Do you really want to see votes on "exactly what and how much we want to produce" at each factory? Or what farmers plant?

Yeah imagine an economic system where farmers can’t even plant the seeds produced by the crops that they grow every year

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Don’t say US. They don’t speak for us all. Only 49.8% of voters. Of which I hope a significant portion have seen the error of their ways come midterms and the next election. Every day is a new embarrassment law or action like this for America until then. I’ve never felt lower about America in my lifetime. The hope I had, the pride I felt in America, is gone, chunk by chunk, piece by piece, every day.

> Don’t say US. They don’t speak for us all. Only 49.8% of voters. E pluribus unum

Out of many one. Look up the definition of "fasces." I love that it's literally a US symbol.

https://academic.oup.com/book/44680/chapter-abstract/3787689...

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Do you really want to see votes on "exactly what and how much we want to produce" at each factory? Or what farmers plant?

Yeah imagine an economic system where farmers can’t even plant the seeds produced by the crops that they grow every year

I'm in a massive grain belt ATM, as a sign of the times I can't place whether that's a reference to GM crops or the immediate issue of fuel and fertilizer.

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I always thought Trump was such a joke. Completely non-threatening, just a big personality who kept popping up here and there. I even bought a MAGA hat back in the summer before the election explicitly because I thought it was hysterical he was even running, and knew he would lose. I thought the whole thing was a gag, a joke, just like Bloomberg. It didn't even cross my mind that someone so woefully inadequate for th…

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Honest is a word that can never be associated with the man, other than an antonym.

He's also a hypocrite (he wields Christianity like a weapon but is not a believer), talks about law and order but believes it doesn't apply to him, etc.

If I had to use one word in that vein it would be "clear". He makes it very clear who he is and what his values are.

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Let's raise energy independence by doubling down on oil, a resource we know will be exhausted sometime soon!

This is basically the opposite of what any kind of reasonable long term thinking would argue for.

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My experience is the exact opposite. It is one of the most common points of pedantry I see in controversial political threads, across nations. Not for no reason either. Turnout was 64.1%, so really it's the active decision of 31.9218% of voters (voting eligibles) culminating in this. Kind of a pattern with modern democracies if you check. Not that passively endorsing this by not voting when the opportunity was there…

I hate this line of reasoning. People who didn't vote are equally guilty, because they did not care enough to show up. Or, maybe, they just didn't make it to polling station on time for some reason (having to pick up kids from school, or working second shift or something). You should always assume that the result of the elections is representative of what society thinks. That's how elections (and opinion polls, for t…

There is actually extensive mathematical history to fair voting, the output of which is super not in use, and of which I do find plenty of the alternative systems more representative:

https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk

I do think regular variety elections are generally representative though. I just also see value in keeping these asterisks in mind.

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I always thought Trump was such a joke. Completely non-threatening, just a big personality who kept popping up here and there. I even bought a MAGA hat back in the summer before the election explicitly because I thought it was hysterical he was even running, and knew he would lose. I thought the whole thing was a gag, a joke, just like Bloomberg. It didn't even cross my mind that someone so woefully inadequate for th…

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