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It means you can sue for product liability under common law. Negligence, breach of warranty, or strict liability, depending on jurisdiction. Court decides after harm.
Sue them in who's court? With who to enforce the ruling? The... government ?
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The recent base Framework 13 would cost you $1,170, Ryzen AI 5 340, with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and 4 full featured (USB4) USB-C ports. Note: You can buy the RAM and SSD separately, Framework even links PCPartsPicker (no price for 2x8GB RAM, so price is for single 16GB). How much storage space does your last gen M4 Macbook Air come with? 256GB would be irrelevant for most anyone, as you cannot upgrade... unlike with a F…
The recent base Framework 13 would cost you $1,170, Ryzen AI 5 340, with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and 4 full featured (USB4) USB-C ports. $1,170 for a laptop that uses one of AMD's lowest end laptop chip. The M4 Macbook Air can be had for $750 often. It's superior in every single way as a laptop including vastly superior performance, battery life, screen, touch pad, build quality, portability. You can buy RAM and SSD for…
> macOS is excellent
> If you're a dev, macOS is also generally superior to Linux since dev tools often come out on macOS before Linux.
Lol. Sure, buddy.
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It means you can sue for product liability under common law. Negligence, breach of warranty, or strict liability, depending on jurisdiction. Court decides after harm.
Right, this typically works very well after you spend tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars getting all the stuff to court in the first place to have a trial drag on for years in discovery all the while the hospital is sending out debt collectors. Oh, that's if it wasn't actually a shell company in the first place that has no assets. A good portion of the things you mention existed before we had food regulations,…
As I said earlier in this thread:
> Determining the best means of applying the principle of suing corporations in practice is an very complex question that belongs to the philosophy of law.
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> You didn't say why this is a bad solution. The fear is that regulations ossify industries and that's why heavily regulated industries like healthcare, education, and transportation have seen basically no innovation in 50 years. If you mandate that all electronic devices must have USB-C cables, how can anyone invent something better than a USB-C cable? And for what, so people don't have to have multiple cables? That…
> and that's why heavily regulated industries like healthcare, education, and transportation have seen basically no innovation in 50 years. Not to get distracted, but aren't these three all incredible examples of innovation over time? Healthcare alone is significantly better than it was 50 years ago and it's not really close. 50 years ago, this hip new treatment called electroshock therapy was being used to "treat" b…
You could maybe argue mRNA vaccines or semaglutides are big innovations, I think we've made a ton of progress against HIV, and it seems like we've made progress against cancer, but when you factor in how much government money goes into this research and compare it against the advancements we've seen in computational technology it's a lot less impressive. You could buy a raspberry pi for like $50 today that outperforms every computer made 50 years ago, whereas the cost of most medical imaging has actually increased [3]. Likewise the inflation adjusted cost of college degrees and building new rail lines or really any infrastructure has increased precipitously since 1970.
1. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/releases/20250416.html
2. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-c...
3. https://www.jacr.org/article/S1546-1440%2822%2900710-4/fullt...
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Airwaves are limited resource - especially spectrum suitable for broadcast. Two companies can’t share the same broadcast spectrum. The Internet is not a limited resource and not owned by the public and licensed to broadcasters. More than one company can lay cable. Do you really want the government policing what can be said on the internet?
It does already. Section 230 in the US isn't an unlimited get out of jail free card. Other countries have varying amount of policing, with differing levels of success and corruption. Spain, the UK, and China all come to mind here.
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Sue them in who's court? With who to enforce the ruling? The... government ?
Courts, police, and the army are proper. That's government. The difference is what kind of government. A proper government holds a monopoly on retaliatory force, it acts after someone initiates force or fraud. It doesn't dictate your screw size, battery compartment, or production method before you've harmed anyone.
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I don't know the precise legal mechanisms for handling diffuse harms like the ones you describe. Determining the best means of applying the principle of suing corporations in practice is an very complex question that belongs to the philosophy of law. My task here is only to establish the nature of the principle and to show that it is practicable. That said, here is my principle: at any time, the government is orders…
> the government is orders of magnitude more powerful than any corporation. As a practical matter, that's untrue in many, many places around the world, and there are no reasons why it couldn't become true in the USA, or any other advanced democracy. Even if you don't think that is yet the case where you live, can you at least agree with me that many leaders of / investors in large corporations want it to be, and are…
> your second paragraph is at odds with your third
No. The government acting as plaintiff is still retaliatory force: harm occurred, the state helps identify the perpetrator. That's not "public interest" overriding private rights, it's the government protecting individual rights by standing in for many individuals who share a common injury.
And yes, corporate leaders want political power. That's cronyism. They want to use force because they can't win in a free market. It's a road to dictatorship, but the road is laid by the principle of "public interest," not unlimited profit motives.
There's no such thing as "the public," only individuals. When one treats "the public" as a blank check to override private rights, one is really saying: some people get sacrificed to others. The taxi industry lobbying to ban Uber isn't about safety or competition. "Affordable housing" mandates that force landlords to subsidize strangers aren't compassion. This institutionalized cold civil war won't end until the state stops pickign winners.
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Courts, police, and the army are proper. That's government. The difference is what kind of government. A proper government holds a monopoly on retaliatory force, it acts after someone initiates force or fraud. It doesn't dictate your screw size, battery compartment, or production method before you've harmed anyone.
...why? This sounds incredibly arbitrary.
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The people that complain about the number of screws are very counter productive. The important thing is that repair is possible at all without permanent damage. Framework and some of the 'repair optimized' designs seem to assume that the device is going to be repaired daily and that it needs to be as easy as possible.
I would think there is a middle ground between a toolless design and 40+ screws. When I saw the IFixIt review of the Neo, it seemed like an excessive number of screws. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the design meetings that led to all those screws. While a single device for a single user will not need daily repairs, when you think about these devices being deployed in a school system, there very well could be a…
If I was streamlining the process I'd use an electric screwdriver and a 3d printed screw holder.
You dont need a 'professional' repairman to screw things in. Most people aren't intimidated by screws, that's silly.
SOCAMM2 is a great form factor for user upgradeable DRAM. The fragile pins are all on the relatively cheap interposer. Id like to see an equivalent standard for NAND. M.2 uses more z height than necessary. Especially for 2 sided support.
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Well another version of it is: I want to be able to talk to my family, but I don't want to buy an iPhone. The EU rightly regulated that any chat network big enough must open their doors to different platforms. Or I don't want to buy Microsoft Office for my employees but I want to be able to do business with those who do, and thankfully we have relatively open document formats now. The chips argument is contrived, the…
> I want to be able to talk to my family, but I don't want to buy an iPhone How were you not able to do this without an iPhone?
To not recognise this as a limitation is to be wilfully blind to network effects. The "green bubbles" issue was a huge issue in the US. Similarly, WhatsApp not being open is a huge problem in forcing people onto Meta's platforms.