Thanks for the heads up, I assumed they had already done this with my data.
If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
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Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#22How do I opt out of this for my own private repos? I don't see anything related to this as I've got a ton of settings for Copilot itself (I have access to Copilot through my work org)
Under privacy.
> Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#23What's a good alternative for free private repos?
It's a fair question, but if you need private repos, I think you need to start considering a paid option, or self-host.
If it's really important to you that the repo is private, I'd self-host.
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#24When Louis Rossmann started describing tech leadership as having a "rapist mentality" I brushed him off as being sensationalist. But actions like this make me think more and more he's right. The product managers pushing for changes like this are despicable scum.
Even the way modern software phrases questions is rapey. Imagine a man asking a woman “want to have sex? Or maybe later?” out of the blue, then asking her again every 3 days until she says “yes”
The situation you describe has dynamics that don't apply when your windows laptop is trying to get you to install an update. A woman can't have 100% confidence that saying no won't trigger a man into rage, so just the question being asked at all is already a bit unpleasant. WinRAR trying to get me to buy a license is not as offensive because I know it won't beat me up for saying no.
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#25To Github's credit, they have been showing a banner consistently.
To my discredit - I never bothered to read that banner until I saw this HN headline
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#26When Louis Rossmann started describing tech leadership as having a "rapist mentality" I brushed him off as being sensationalist. But actions like this make me think more and more he's right. The product managers pushing for changes like this are despicable scum.
Even the way modern software phrases questions is rapey. Imagine a man asking a woman “want to have sex? Or maybe later?” out of the blue, then asking her again every 3 days until she says “yes”
Something like "tea and consent": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
Yeah, it ain't sex, but it does still come down to basic respect.
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#27I've been saying this since 2023 > If your data is stored in a database that a company can freely read and access (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted), the company will eventually update their ToS so they can use your data for AI training — the incentives are too strong to resist https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37124188
Edit: Okay, sounds like you guys are pissed to the point where it seems like the pro tip here is to stop using GitHub. Pro tip: sign up for the business/enterprise version when reasonable in price. I do this with Google Workspace. You can also do it with GitHub. (Google doesn’t train on Workspace, Github doesn’t train on business customers, etc)
It's not a pro tip if it only fucks you over slightly later. How's the weather in Stockholm?
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#28What's a good alternative for free private repos?
Just spitballing, don’t use these tools myself, but isn’t this something that should be encrypted to really prevent them from training? I personally don’t trust anyone with my data when they pivot to building AI products yet claim my data wasn’t a part of that strategy. It’s too easy to hide/lie.
But it always seemed to me that the UI should run locally with encryption keys that are shared and the service just manages encrypted blobs of diffs that can roll from version to version of encrypted data and that’s about it. Granted I probably don’t know the full workflow, i typically am a single dev on simple projects where I don’t need 99% of the overhead these introduce.
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#29What's a good alternative for free private repos?
BitBucket.org (Atlassian)
Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos
#30I've been saying this since 2023 > If your data is stored in a database that a company can freely read and access (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted), the company will eventually update their ToS so they can use your data for AI training — the incentives are too strong to resist https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37124188
Edit: Okay, sounds like you guys are pissed to the point where it seems like the pro tip here is to stop using GitHub. Pro tip: sign up for the business/enterprise version when reasonable in price. I do this with Google Workspace. You can also do it with GitHub. (Google doesn’t train on Workspace, Github doesn’t train on business customers, etc)
Probably don't reward extortion with money.