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If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#11
When Louis Rossmann started describing tech leadership as having a "rapist mentality" I brushed him off as being sensationalist. But actions like this make me think more and more he's right. The product managers pushing for changes like this are despicable scum.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#12
I've been saying this since 2023

> If your data is stored in a database that a company can freely read and access (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted), the company will eventually update their ToS so they can use your data for AI training — the incentives are too strong to resist

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37124188

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#13

What's a good alternative for free private repos?

I've recently started hosting my own forgejo instance. It works so well! Free tailscale for connectivity. I expose mine over fly.io proxy, also free, but not to be done without caution.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#14

What's a good alternative for free private repos?

I would've recommended codeberg but codeberg isn't the finest to be recommended for free private repos.

I definitely feel like more can be done within this space and that there is space for more competitors (even forgejo instances for that matter)

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#15
Context: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/188488

TLDR: As long as you aren't using Copilot, your code should be safe (according to GitHub).

  What data are you collecting?

  When an individual user has this setting enabled, the interaction data we may collect includes:

  - Outputs accepted or modified by the user
  - Inputs sent to GitHub Copilot, including code snippets shown to the model
  - Code context surrounding the user’s cursor position
  - Comment and documentation that the user wrote
  - File names, repository structure, and navigation patterns
  - Interactions with Copilot features including Chat and inline suggestions

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#17
post #12

I've been saying this since 2023 > If your data is stored in a database that a company can freely read and access (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted), the company will eventually update their ToS so they can use your data for AI training — the incentives are too strong to resist https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37124188

Edit: Okay, sounds like you guys are pissed to the point where it seems like the pro tip here is to stop using GitHub.

Pro tip: sign up for the business/enterprise version when reasonable in price.

I do this with Google Workspace. You can also do it with GitHub.

(Google doesn’t train on Workspace, Github doesn’t train on business customers, etc)

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#18

When Louis Rossmann started describing tech leadership as having a "rapist mentality" I brushed him off as being sensationalist. But actions like this make me think more and more he's right. The product managers pushing for changes like this are despicable scum.

Even the way modern software phrases questions is rapey.

Imagine a man asking a woman “want to have sex? Or maybe later?” out of the blue, then asking her again every 3 days until she says “yes”

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

#20

RIP all the people who have been paying Github for years and never happen to see the notice.

I think opt out is stupid, but the notice is on every page of github using their banner display right now. They've also blasted out emails.
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