Live data from Hacker News

Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

cnn.com

101–110 of 262 posts

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#101
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's more likely a government influence operation, or a single dipshit lazily pasting LLM slop?

Could be organic dipshits with little to offer the discussion. That's the most common case in my view. Said dipshits tend have an unnecessarily high degree of self regard.

[flagged]

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#102

Had this conversation with a friend, but I think as an America you can be very optimistic about the institutional strength of democracy in the country. People are very pessimistic recently, but if anything, we are seeing that our system works well. A person got into power that a majority voted for, but when he oversteps, the courts and other institutions (even judges and fed reserve chairs he picked!) seem to hold hi…

The question is not whether the walls can contain the bull until animal control arrives, but whether any china will remain intact.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#103

Had this conversation with a friend, but I think as an America you can be very optimistic about the institutional strength of democracy in the country. People are very pessimistic recently, but if anything, we are seeing that our system works well. A person got into power that a majority voted for, but when he oversteps, the courts and other institutions (even judges and fed reserve chairs he picked!) seem to hold hi…

This is one ruling out of many, many of which directly benefit Trump. See Trump vs. United States 2024 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States

There’s absolutely 0 reason to be optimistic towards a court stacked explicitly in his favor.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#104
post #36

[dead]

[flagged]

Did you read the order? It directly addresses your comment:

> More importantly, as discussed above, no one is entitled to conduct business with the Federal Government, see Perkins, 310 U.S. at 127, and irrespective of the challenged actions, DoW and other federal agencies are free to terminate its contracts and agreements with Anthropic, as Anthropic readily admits.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.46...

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#106
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that if DoD's supply chain restriction does what Hegseth seems to want, all contractors involved with Anthropic would have to divest. That includes Amazon and Google, who are both DoD contractors who provide massive quantities of capital and compute to Anthropic. It's irrelevant that Anthropic provides Claude through Palantir.

I'm not sure that's how the supply chain risk thing works. AFAIK, it has to be part of the supply chain for the products delivered to the DoD to count. I don't think just because Amazon is unrelatedly involved with Anthropic, this forces them to sever that relationship. I'm not sure if Hegseth thinks otherwise, but it's entirely possible that he is wrong or that being wrong is expedient to his threats.

I believe you are correct, but they could still weaponize it by requiring the contractors to document proof of not using Anthropic products and can drag that out as long as they want to.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I've told people in the past, what you have to understand is that the First Amendment gives Americans wide latitude to mobilize in ways which don't code as mobilization. There's a nationwide protest scheduled for Saturday based on the premise that Trump is a tyrant and we the people won't let him do what he wants. But it's legal and common for people to say that; indeed, it's even legal to say (and I do say) that…

You don’t think the horses are not already out of the barn and long gone?

I don't understand what the analogy means in this context. Do I think that it's illegal or impossible to oppose the US government? No, I do so routinely.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

No one is forcing the DoD to contract with a company.

DoD would like to use Palantir. DoD also believes Anthropic is pursuing posttraining in future models that will limit the effectiveness of Palantir tooling, if used by Palantir, for the purposes of DoDs mission.

What other legal mechanism do they have to prevent Palantir from specifically not subcontracting out to Anthropic, other than a supply chain risk designation? Note that directly asking Palantir to prefer Google or OpenAI over Anthropic is a violation of procurement law and highly illegal.

What other mechanism do they have?

Post reply on HN