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Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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Incidentally, many countries/states are working hard to make it impossible to transition that early.

At 12 you simply do not have sufficient capacity to make a good decision on the matter.

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Re: Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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post #286

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Incidentally, many countries/states are working hard to make it impossible to transition that early.

At 12 you simply do not have sufficient capacity to make a good decision on the matter.

Which is why puberty blockers are prescribed to transgender children, delaying puberty until later in life when a "good decision" can be made, usually closer to the mid to late teens.

Re: Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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"born as" (not sure the best way to phrase it) The usual term is "cisgender", or "cis" for short. "Cis" and "Trans" both come from Latin; the former means "the same side of" and the latter means "the other side of". If you are happy to be on the same side of the gender binary as what you were assigned when you were born then you are "cisgender"; if you are unhappy with that state of affairs (regardless of how much wo…

Adding to this: If you do not want to reference the current gender, you can also use "Assigned Female at Birth" (AFAB), or "Assigned Male at Birth" (AMAB). This is useful when clarifying terms, when you do not know the persons identity, or when discussing groups based on the factory default settings.

Yep. :)

Re: Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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"born as" (not sure the best way to phrase it) The usual term is "cisgender", or "cis" for short. "Cis" and "Trans" both come from Latin; the former means "the same side of" and the latter means "the other side of". If you are happy to be on the same side of the gender binary as what you were assigned when you were born then you are "cisgender"; if you are unhappy with that state of affairs (regardless of how much wo…

Now you say it like that, I did know that. Thank you.

You're welcome! <3

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Would it? It's the most popular event for speedrunning and has raised millions of dollars each year for over a decade. Sounds like they're doing just fine as is and, perhaps, fostering an inclusive environment which explicitly protects people demonized by society at large has only helped, not hurt.

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Many people like to focus on the purely physical attributes, but there's a clear distinction even in realms like chess. The highest ranked female chess player is right around #55 globally, wherein the top 50 all are dominated by men. Some of this may have to do with men having more interest/higher propensity of starting young which is where most grandmasters begin their journey, but still an interesting thing to cons…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polgár

But has she ever passed a test to prove she doesn't have the SRY gene?

/s

Re: Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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When I was growing up, I remember some drama because East German and Soviet male athletes were trying to compete as women. If male to female trans athletes were allowed to compete, I imagine it would just be a matter of time before a female athlete would HAVE to be trans in order to stand a competitive chance.

your imagination is wrong. obviously.

Doubtful. Despite your articulate counter-argument, I am unconvinced of your viewpoint.

Re: Olympic Committee bars transgender athletes from women’s events

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That athlete was excluded from the women's competition on the basis of having male physiological advantage. Exactly what the Olympics are now doing.

Androgen insensitivity syndrome means that her cells do not react to testosterone. What male advantage is there if her cells don't react to testosterone?

Soundarajan's androgen insensitivity was reported as being partial (i.e. PAIS, and not CAIS), which implies some degree of testosterone-driven masculinization.
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