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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by red_admiral »

Manuel_D wrote: post #296
claaams wrote: post #272

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This doesn’t paint the entire picture. Suicide rates peaked in 1990 and then declined to its lowest point in 2007 from there the rates started rising again.

Like all metrics, they fluctuate over time. But they've remained pretty for decades stable at around 10 per 100k per year. The recent rise doesn't really coincide with social media adoption. By 2008, >80% of teens were using social media. If social media adoption was driving the increase in suicides, we would have started to see a rise in suicides around the early 2000s, reaching it's peak around 2008. But that adopt…

There is a claim that it's not social media on its own, but social media on smartphones that's responsible for a decline in child/teen mental health.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Aurornis wrote: post #4

Many will cheer for any case that hurts Meta without reading the details, but we should be aware that these cases are one of the key reasons why companies are backtracking from features like end-to-end encryption: > The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversati…

However did we survive all of these years with unencrypted SMS or voice calls?!

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

mjevans wrote: post #31
Aurornis wrote: post #4

Many will cheer for any case that hurts Meta without reading the details, but we should be aware that these cases are one of the key reasons why companies are backtracking from features like end-to-end encryption: > The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversati…

The correct nuance here is... * Classifying accounts as child accounts (moderated by a parent) * Allowing account moderators to review content in the account that is moderated (including assigning other moderation tools of choice) In call cases transparency and enabling consumer choice should be the core focus. Additionally: by default treat everyone online as an adult. Parents that allow their kids online like that…

That doesn't work, unless the system knows everyone's family relationships.

Not guesses. Not is told about and takes on trust. Knows.

There's nothing to stop a kid creating a fake adult account and using it as an adult, perhaps creating their own kid account for "official" use.

Ultimately this is an unsolvable problem without a single source of truth for verified ID and user age.

The only responsible way to do that is to create a global "ID escrow" agency, where ID details are private and aren't available to governments or corporations without a court order, but the agency can provide basic age checks and other privacy services of a limited nature.

Good luck with that idea in this culture.

Meanwhile we have the opposite - real ID is known to governments and corporations, personal habits and beliefs of all kinds can be tracked, there is zero expectation of privacy, and kids still aren't protected.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by expedition32 »

gingersnap wrote: post #520
mjevans wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The correct nuance here is... * Classifying accounts as child accounts (moderated by a parent) * Allowing account moderators to review content in the account that is moderated (including assigning other moderation tools of choice) In call cases transparency and enabling consumer choice should be the core focus. Additionally: by default treat everyone online as an adult. Parents that allow their kids online like that…

I think this is the way. Not control, but just make it simpler for parents to handle their childrens devices. You dont have to make everyone share their age, you just make it so that parents can in a simpler way choose what the children should be able to access. Make it easy to do right, dont add more control. Its kind of the old anti-piracy copyprotections. The pirates always cracked it, and in the end, the ones who…

Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them.

So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by bilekas »

If I was to take my tinfoil hat off, one could see a world where Facebook let this happen in the first place in order to have a case to make for less security in communications.

I don't like Meta in any sense of the word and I think they've degraded humanity and society as a whole significantly for generations now to come. But I hope my conspiratorial mind is just over reacting.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by jimbokun »

dwedge wrote: post #523
jimbokun wrote: post #414

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Because people like you then go and vote for politicians without actually understanding what they are proposing. It's all Trump style "believe me I know how to fix it" and you will vote for the person that pushes your buttons regardless of whether they have a plausible solution or not.

So only lawyers should be allowed to vote, otherwise we are subjected to ad hominem attacks?

Lack of an informed populace has gotten us the government we have today in the US. I think we can do better.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by pyuser583 »

bitwize wrote: post #509
pyuser583 wrote: post #491

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How is the Clipper chip different from what online platforms claim have: a curated kids only section?

In the mid-90s the US government proposed that Clipper be used as the universal encryption standard for secure electronic communications in the civilian realm, all other cryptosystems being presumably forbidden. It was based on the idea of key escrow: that all Clipper keys be held in an archive and law enforcement could recover a copy of the encryption key for any given Clipper chip upon providing legitimate authoriz…

I’m so sorry, I confused the Clipper Chip with the V-Chip.

The 1990s were interesting times.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by davidguetta »

expedition32 wrote: post #534
gingersnap wrote: post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is the way. Not control, but just make it simpler for parents to handle their childrens devices. You dont have to make everyone share their age, you just make it so that parents can in a simpler way choose what the children should be able to access. Make it easy to do right, dont add more control. Its kind of the old anti-piracy copyprotections. The pirates always cracked it, and in the end, the ones who…

Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them. So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

This is not a widely shared opinion.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by j16sdiz »

davidguetta wrote: post #539
expedition32 wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them. So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

This is not a widely shared opinion.

"it take a village ...."

depends on your culture.

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