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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by mjevans »

Aurornis wrote: post #4

Many will cheer for any case that hurts Meta without reading the details, but we should be aware that these cases are one of the key reasons why companies are backtracking from features like end-to-end encryption: > The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversati…

The correct nuance here is...

* Classifying accounts as child accounts (moderated by a parent)

* Allowing account moderators to review content in the account that is moderated (including assigning other moderation tools of choice)

In call cases transparency and enabling consumer choice should be the core focus.

Additionally: by default treat everyone online as an adult. Parents that allow their kids online like that without supervision / some setting that the user agent is operated by a child intend to allow their children to interact with strangers. This tends to work out better in more controlled and limited circumstances where the adults involved have the resources to provide suitable supervision.

At the same time, any requirements should apply only to commercial products. Community (gratis / not for profit) efforts presumably reflect the needs of a given community.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by Supermancho »

babelfish wrote: post #26
gzread wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sense that calling it E2EE gives people a warm fuzzy feeling and makes people send more sensitive information over the platform. Has anyone actually audited it?

Probably their auditors? Lying about this would be tantamount to (very serious) securities fraud. Not sure what you're basing on your allegations on besides "trust me bro"

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by skybrian »

fourside wrote: post #30
pylua wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

I understand the concern but then to make this available for adults you now have to provide proof of age to companies, which opens up another can of privacy worms.

Theoretically we don't actually need proof of age. Websites need to know when the user is attempting to create an account or log in from a child-locked device. Parents need to make sure their kids only have child-locked devices. Vendors need to make sure they don't sell unlocked devices to kids.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by whatshisface »

pylua wrote: post #27
Aurornis wrote: post #4

Many will cheer for any case that hurts Meta without reading the details, but we should be aware that these cases are one of the key reasons why companies are backtracking from features like end-to-end encryption: > The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversati…

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

I'm not comfortable with the idea that children's private messages would be exposed to thousands of social media workers and government employees.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by kelseyfrog »

fourside wrote: post #30
pylua wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

I understand the concern but then to make this available for adults you now have to provide proof of age to companies, which opens up another can of privacy worms.

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by throwaway27727 »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #35
fourside wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the concern but then to make this available for adults you now have to provide proof of age to companies, which opens up another can of privacy worms.

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Establishments don't record my data or even take down my name. They take a look at the birthdate and wave me forward.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by triceratops »

pylua wrote: post #27
Aurornis wrote: post #4

Many will cheer for any case that hurts Meta without reading the details, but we should be aware that these cases are one of the key reasons why companies are backtracking from features like end-to-end encryption: > The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversati…

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

I have kids. I don't want creeps and predators spying on their conversations with friends.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by triceratops »

throwaway27727 wrote: post #36
kelseyfrog wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Establishments don't record my data or even take down my name. They take a look at the birthdate and wave me forward.

We need a way to do this online.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by pylua »

triceratops wrote: post #37
pylua wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

I have kids. I don't want creeps and predators spying on their conversations with friends.

That's true, I didn't consider that

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by pylua »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #28
pylua wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually okay with not letting under age people use e2e. I’m not okay with blocking everyone. I have 2 kids.

The problem is all these ‘for the children’ arguments contain collateral damage.

It does seem like it could potentially be used to enforce mass surveillance over the people of the United States
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