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Dario Amodei @ 18:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcqQ1ebBqkc&t=1088s
Goodbye to Sora
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There were ~trends similar to what appeared early in TikTok. For example, early TikTok had the Boss Walk. Sora had no big content trends split into many micro trends in some established ~universe.
Well, that stuff goes viral because it’s fun to imitate, all the dances and challenges provided a flywheel to get people creating more content, it’s fun to make the video. If I see an AI video and my options to participate are… prompt another AI video? What’s the point
For example, there is one that was a making sort of Macy’s thanksgiving day-style parade floats.
And you could pick virtually any content type and see this interpreted as “real” floats.
It did not require a ton of effort, for example you could reply to the above example existing with the prompt “do this, but have the float theme be ‘meet the feebles’”
And if you know of that film and recognized the AI’s interpretation of it in that context and it was half decent it was entertaining.
Not all “trends” if you can call them that were so simple to do well with.
Often the prompts needed to be elaborate and required multiple generations to really get a feel for if you were on the right track.
I think they did have something here and probably someone will do it again and it will work.
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Not yet but it seems like they're getting to the point of AI narration finally being good enough to make any text an 'audiobook'. Having said that I absolutely hate the audio format, I only used it when I had to drive or when I swam lanes. But these days I do neither.
No, reading verbatim from a technical paper is way too dense. You need a lot of filler words to slow it down and repetition to make it stick when read aloud.
Ps I don't mean the word 'manipulation' in a negative context.
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#854Good riddance. AI video generation is not something humanity needs.
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My perspective is different: we never could trust videos and images in the past. Our hopes, back then, were that the costs of faking said media (despite us being in the age of information and media) would remain permanently high and would deter people from choosing so. But this was always wishful thinking. GenAI has presented tangible proof of such risks and is forcing society to reevaluate the way we trust evidence.…
IMO what's really wishful thinking is believing that society will necessarily adapt for the better in response to a deluge of AI spam/ads/propaganda. You could have said the same about say, pre-AI deceptively edited/ragebait/made up content going viral on FB, "actually this is good because soon people will realize they are being tricked/lied to, they'll think extra-critically before sharing dubious content next time"…
I can't really provide a truly good solution, as this problem has large ramifications into philosophy and ethics, but I'd think it would involve solutions like attestation and certificates, and, primarily, thinking of shared media (text, images, videos, etc.) not as facts, but, strictly as allegations.
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From my vantage point AI consumption is being lead by tech leadership moreso than actual in-the-weeds programmers themselves. HN just happens to include more folk at the intersection of leadership and individual code contributor. The top down push for AI is in line with the age old traditions of replacing highly skilled and highly compensated trade workers with automation. The writing is on the wall if folks care to…
Whats your setup for the agent team?
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To be fair, LLMs are exceptional at coding and they very well could displace some jobs. But you'll always need people at the helm who know what they're doing too.
> To be fair, LLMs are exceptional at coding No they aren't. Any decently skilled human blows them out of the water. They can do better than an untrained human, but that's not much of an achievement.
I don't tell the agents to "just go do it", as that tends to go off the rails for complex tasks. Emulating real world software development processes in meat space with your AI "team" seems to approximate similar outcomes.
I usually start by having the agents construct a plan document which I iterate on and build up well before writing code. This is a living document, not a final design (yet.) If I run into context window issues I just shut them down and rebuild from the document. I farm out research and data gathering tasks to build it up. Once all the findings are in I have the architect take a stab at the technical system design before the break down and delegation work begins. By then the units of work are small and manageable.
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"coding is the prime use case for this where you can make money" Is it? I have the impression GenAI deteriorates the internet both from a content and tech perspective. Bots that waste your time because they don't work well or because they are pushing an agenda, and low quality content that floods social media from people who want to make a quick buck. GitHub and AWS became increasingly unstable. X, Instagram, and Wha…
I fear people will just get used to it. Nobody gets tailored clothing anyhmore and people don't question that we have standardized sizes that don't really fit anyone properly. People commonly buy standardized furniture and rarely get something to a specific for their room. If cheaper software (I mean thats mostly what it is) gets the job done, we will probably just keep doing that, even if that means we lose somethin…
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I spent years deep in modular synthesis, making my own patches, sounds, and effects processors then using them to perform music. Taking away the precision, control, and serendipity afforded by modules and cables, or a programming language, and telling me "Just describe what you want and the plagiarism machine will spit out whatever correlates with that description on average" would destroy everything I love about syn…
U are arguing against a person who isnt there. I also have done similar and my mind was not thinking specifically prompt the whole output. I think people have this kneejerk to anything that isnt total negativity of ai in the creative space. It is only a tool.
Ditto nerve gas, and the rack.
Tools absolutely _can_ have moral valence.
Beyond that, they can also be more or less effective for a variety of purposes.
I spent decades to achieve solid competence at a few different skills, and my experience of genAI thus far is that it can easily give the user the delusion of mastery, ensuring the user does not develop true skills, trapped in the false belief that they can do everything they want to or ever would want to.
The process of struggling to learn new skills showed me new worlds of possibility I would never have discovered or explored without first developing those skills.
There are very legitimate reasons why so many artists and musicians hate genAI.
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> I think consumers are slightly smarter now that they don't want to be drawn into this kind of addictive toxic content. The addictive toxic content will go the way of tobacco and explore new markets. Back in 2010 around 11% of the population of Indonesia was connected to the internet. Currently it's closer to 80% - largely via mobile phones. That's approximately 200mln new users. Nigeria and Pakistan are going throu…
I'm reminded of a video from the 80's/90's where researchers took a TV to the Amazon to see how "live off the land" tribes reacted to high technology. Apparently they stopped doing everything and just wanted to watch TV all day. And that was just regular old TV. Short form video is a special kind of crack. I see even old people getting hypnotized by it. And even worse, they're terrible at determining if something is…
But yeah, scrolling short form is crack