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probably one of the few human commenters remaining here
Such a stupid joke but it gave me a laugh.
Goodbye to Sora
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> they make a ton of money on inference So it is stated, but is it actually true? I am not convinced. Besides, it's not as if they can suddenly stop training models, the moment you do that you've spelled a death sentence for profitablity because Google and open source will very quickly undercut a 15 year break even timeline.
It's widely reported and acknowledged as true.
Well, the only people with any ability to acknowledge it have a massive incentive to do so, and I've been around the block enough times to know that startups will use every trick in the book to paint a rosy financial picture, even when it's extremely misleading or occasionally just straight up lies. In the current climate of AI hype my skepticism is even greater.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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"coding is the prime use case for this where you can make money" Is it? I have the impression GenAI deteriorates the internet both from a content and tech perspective. Bots that waste your time because they don't work well or because they are pushing an agenda, and low quality content that floods social media from people who want to make a quick buck. GitHub and AWS became increasingly unstable. X, Instagram, and Wha…
I fear people will just get used to it. Nobody gets tailored clothing anyhmore and people don't question that we have standardized sizes that don't really fit anyone properly. People commonly buy standardized furniture and rarely get something to a specific for their room. If cheaper software (I mean thats mostly what it is) gets the job done, we will probably just keep doing that, even if that means we lose somethin…
Yeah but buying a sofa from Ikea doesn't let people steal my banking passwords. There are serious consequences to software bugs that there aren't in cheaper ready-made clothing.
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#814Man I find the HN crowd so cross and fickle sometimes. I think it’s just because when companies get bad rep it affects how people view the products? Im autistic and tend to focus on the tech SORA ( whatever that means) was one of the most astounding demos I’ve probably ever seen ( ChatGPT was more gradual ). The shock and awe of rendered AI video blew my mind. Yes months later everyone can do it and is bored by it an…
I think Sora is an excellent way to see how people's beliefs clash with reality. Even in this post, I see people likening Sora to unveiling "a weapon", it filling them with "bland dread", or comparing it to creating "killing robots". But now that Sora is being shut down, what impact did Sora actually have on society, other than getting a couple of people to waste their time making some funny meme videos? Did any of t…
At least according to the Head of Product at X, Sora was by far the most widely used tool to create fake war videos[0] aiming to push various false narratives. Given how popular fake content is at Meta I can only imagine what they see there (if they even have anybody looking at this kind of thing).
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> they make a ton of money on inference So it is stated, but is it actually true? I am not convinced. Besides, it's not as if they can suddenly stop training models, the moment you do that you've spelled a death sentence for profitablity because Google and open source will very quickly undercut a 15 year break even timeline.
It's widely reported and acknowledged as true.
Where and by who? Critical context missing here.
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Coding is one topic but the big one is agentic ai. You will have an agent like your seo expert, this agent will be able to use common tools like google seo, facebook seo etc. and you will teach how you want it to do its 'job'. You will have a way of delivering your requirements to it, it will run in the background, might ask for feedback but will otherwise do stuff similiar to whatever person was doing it before. The…
I see where you are going with this, but IMO this is not a technical problem but a legal problem. Who will be held responsible when an AI agent messes up the HR system and the company is exposed to losses due to a mistake? Who is going to be responsible when your SEO agent overspends? Ultimately, it's going to be you most likely, because I can't see AI firms taking this responsibility. You might argue that right now…
I think it will move most critical due dilligence to the tools / HR system themselves.
Encoding more rules, more precise rules and alerting a human in case it thinks its off. Like salary increase by 20% gets flagged automatically. Revenue drop bey x % too.
It could even go so far that the maker of these systems will insure you for their use.
It just needs to be cheaper than all the humans in the loop and if you train it once, you can copy it unlimited time. Scaling effect of software for tasks we need to train a human again and again.
It could also be agent systems which do this. Like a company building and designing the HR USA Healthcare agent specialized in SAP HR. Another one for HR Brazil Healthcare agent specialized in another HR software.
Humans are really expensive and you have to train them regularly and every single on of them.
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Everyone is doing image generation. Its realtivly easy and I would say it would be a people mover if openai wouldn't support this. So they need to be able to do image generation, for which they need image data. They also need to be able to analyze videos for more and better training data like learning or teaching there models from yt and other sources. So they have image generation, image dataset and video dataset. I…
Oh yeah. Openai didn't have a major image update in a while, no?
Their latest model is from December but tbh i have not heard much about it.
Nano Banana created a lot of noise.
But the reasoning of Gemini 3.1 Pro is really really good. Its hard to describe how good it became. I do not see the same quality from openai. Openai though is also super fast in response. A lot faster than just a few month ago.
For example: some german guy used the wrong word in describing an advantage of having a silencer and missuesd a word. Openai just said its nonsense, gemini suggested that its a typo and he wanted to write something else (gemini was correct).
It could also be that we are in a moat between "why is AGI not here yet" and "we need to build now the agentic platform stuff, that takes time".
Gemini pro is def slower than openai and I do not know if its because I use the pro version of gemini but not from openai. But it could also be that OpenAI has to work on subagents because Gemini def uses subagents and i was not able to find a source that OpenAI is doing this too.
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I fear people will just get used to it. Nobody gets tailored clothing anyhmore and people don't question that we have standardized sizes that don't really fit anyone properly. People commonly buy standardized furniture and rarely get something to a specific for their room. If cheaper software (I mean thats mostly what it is) gets the job done, we will probably just keep doing that, even if that means we lose somethin…
Yeah but buying a sofa from Ikea doesn't let people steal my banking passwords. There are serious consequences to software bugs that there aren't in cheaper ready-made clothing.
Side point, but clothing industry are some of the biggest pollutors in the world