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Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

dahart wrote: post #80
inaros wrote: post #72

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This is why the bad reviews are important and support my argument: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47518428

That’s not a compelling argument. Sometimes bad reviews can be useful when there are a lot of them, but you’re taking them out of context and ignoring the mountain of good reviews, and furthermore making unsupportable claims about why there are good reviews. Some 1-star reviews are also people who were in a bad mood, or had a rare/unique experience. Occasionally bad reviews are competitors and occasionally trolls who…

The number of reviews are irrelevant. The nature and content of the reviews are highly relevant.

Plus film critics are overwhelmingly white and male... https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jun/11/film-critics-wh...

Very much like HN audience ;-)

If I have 100 reviews saying 10/10, loved the movie, thumbs up!.... I learn nothing. Indian audiences for example always give extreme positive reviews to movies.

If I have a detailed bad review, that tells me why its a bad movie, its not about support for my opinion, its about understanding if the reviewer traveled the same road, to get to the same conclusion.

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

austinthetaco wrote: post #75
inaros wrote: post #43

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The author of the great Astrophotography is not the OP of the HN post. And that is already one starting and possible isolated indicator of astroturfing, ....when the movie related posts got no traction, they went looking for related subjects...

Under the assumption that amazon has decided to astroturf on this niche tech news site, that is still okay and allowed to do as long as the article provided is interesting. There are countless posts here which are just blogs from various companies, sometimes posted here by the companies themselves. Meta, Apple, small startups, movie companies, whatever. It's all allowed here as long as the content posted has substanc…

>> Under the assumption that amazon has decided to astroturf on this niche tech news site

Even Microsoft astroturfs here...

Satya Nadella, Microsoft FY2019 Q1 earnings call [1]:

“In fact, this morning, I was reading a news article in Hacker News, which is a community where we have been working hard to make sure that Azure is growing in popularity and I was pleasantly surprised to see that we have made a lot of progress..."

[1] - https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2018/10/24/mi...

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

kdaker wrote: post #4
inaros wrote: post #2

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OP, who seem like an accomplished astrophotographer is sharing a proud moment involving his work. All you can say is how bad the movie is? You can share this in on a post about the movie itself. Btw beautiful photographs OP.

This is supposed to be a smart community..but you and at least at 30% here dont seem to be able to grasp, the OP is not the Astrophotographer.

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by throw0101d »

inaros wrote: post #66
throw0101d wrote: post #37

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> sort by worst review Now go to IMDb again: * https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12042730/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_ra... and look at the score distribution.

That is the kind of metric that got Trump elected....

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H.L. Mencken

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by joe5150 »

inaros wrote: post #65
ceejayoz wrote: post #30

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> sort by worst review This is about the worst methodology you could possibly use here. > If you believe like some of commentators this is a 10/10 movie, you also probably believe these reviews are not manipulated… 100% of online reviews should be treated as manipulated.

>> This is about the worst methodology you could possibly use here. By the contrary. It is the absolutely best methodology. I am surprised you cant see why. You should do the same for hotel reviews or amazon products. Its about the CONTENT and nature of the bad review. The best way to judge a movie, hotel, or product is often to read the negative reviews first, because negative reviews reveal the failure modes. A pos…

A movie which doesn't satisfy your specific tastes and expectations in science fiction hasn't "failed".

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

throw0101d wrote: post #81
inaros wrote: post #62

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Did you watch the movie? Those reviews are manipulated... Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other? If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling?

> Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? When it comes to the concept of entertainment? No. Is the 2003 movie The Room (written/directed/produced by Tommy Wiseau) "objectively" good or bad? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room If it is "objectively" 'bad' why do (many) people have such a good time watching it? Are they "objectively" happier after watching The Room ? Are people "objectively" happier after w…

>>When it comes to the concept of entertainment? No.

You are confusing taste and quality....

If there is no objectivity....then you would have no basis to explain why a film is better or worse than another, A student first iPhone short would be equal to The Godfather. A child banging pots would be indistinguishable from a Symphony.

The moment you say something is good or bad, we can talk about craft, skill, storytelling structure and emotional impact, all of which can be measured and compared and where this movie fails on all parameters...

You can personally dislike something excellent...for example few people can appreciate the genius of Miles Davis, and enjoy something mediocre... Too many to quote here...but Project Hail Mary is one :-)

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by ceejayoz »

inaros wrote: post #98
throw0101d wrote: post #81

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> Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? When it comes to the concept of entertainment? No. Is the 2003 movie The Room (written/directed/produced by Tommy Wiseau) "objectively" good or bad? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room If it is "objectively" 'bad' why do (many) people have such a good time watching it? Are they "objectively" happier after watching The Room ? Are people "objectively" happier after w…

>>When it comes to the concept of entertainment? No. You are confusing taste and quality.... If there is no objectivity....then you would have no basis to explain why a film is better or worse than another, A student first iPhone short would be equal to The Godfather. A child banging pots would be indistinguishable from a Symphony. The moment you say something is good or bad, we can talk about craft, skill, storytell…

> If there is no objectivity....then you would have no basis to explain why a film is better or worse than another

This is indeed the case. You can consult many film experts and get very different top ten lists. Some critics may hate The Godfather. Some won't get Citizen Kane. Some love a good popcorn fluff movie and find this year's Oscar contenders pretentious.

It becomes a matter of general consensus. And that consensus appears to be that it's a pretty satisfying movie; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/project_hail_mary. (High art? No. But that wasn't its goal.)

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