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Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by touisteur »

roblh wrote: post #39
vintagedave wrote: post #34

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I'm curious how the starless versions are created. From the steps at the end, I couldn't see a 'this is how stars are removed' step. Maybe it's part of stacking (but most stars would remain present?) or the calibration process treating stars as noise?

I feel like the stars are probably pretty easy to mask out since they’re very bright relative to the rest of the image. Once you have the mask, each one is small enough that you could probably fill it with the values from adjacent pixels. Kinda like sensor mapping to hide dead pixels. That’s just a guess though, I’m sure there’s more to it than that.

Bright stars are so bright they literally mask areas of the sky. You'll probably need deconvolution algorithms (CLEAN being the standard some time ago, don't know whether some AI/deep-inv approach works nowadays...) to remove them.

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

throw0101d wrote: post #14
ceejayoz wrote: post #8

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I enjoyed the hell out of it. Consider the possibility that your opinions are not universal.

> Consider the possibility that your opinions are not universal. Critic and audience reactions are generally positive: > On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 94% of 326 critics' reviews are positive. The website's consensus reads: "A visually dazzling space odyssey that's carried along effortlessly by the gravitational pull of Ryan Gosling at his most winning, Project Hail Mary is a near-miraculous fusio…

Did you watch the movie? Those reviews are manipulated...

Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other?

If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling?

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by ceejayoz »

inaros wrote: post #62
throw0101d wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Consider the possibility that your opinions are not universal. Critic and audience reactions are generally positive: > On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 94% of 326 critics' reviews are positive. The website's consensus reads: "A visually dazzling space odyssey that's carried along effortlessly by the gravitational pull of Ryan Gosling at his most winning, Project Hail Mary is a near-miraculous fusio…

Did you watch the movie? Those reviews are manipulated... Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other? If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling?

> Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other?

In this context? Absolutely not. One person's favorite movie is another's least.

> If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling?

It's OK for a movie to not be an Oscar contender.

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by dahart »

inaros wrote: post #60
dahart wrote: post #42

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Those handful of 1-star reviews seem the same as the 1-star reviews on all movies, including all of the good movies you probably liked: “boring”, “overhyped”, “doesn’t live up to the book”, etc.. Are they manipulated? Go ahead and name a movie you like without looking at the reviews first, if you dare, and then let’s check the reviews. I liked the movie and loved the book. Did you read the book? You seeing to be igno…

My problem with the movie is not that it is humorous or accessible. Scifi does not have to be solemn like 2001 or mythic like Dune. The probleme is that reduces a huge premise to a childish emotional register... The premise is an interstellar mission, species level extinction risk, first contact, scientific problem solving. The film frames this through cute banter, soft sentiment, and quips that shrinks the movie sca…

Is your problem with the movie or the book? It sounds like you didn’t read the book…? It is a buddy story and the author Andy Weir has stated he wanted the story to be different from the typical scary first encounter and send a positive hopeful message.

Again, name any movie you like and go look at the 1-star reviews. You will see the very same rants you’re making here. You can trash any SciFi movie this way because it’s fiction.

So when you said “no actual SciFi” you just meant you thought it was bad sci-fi? The book spends a lot more time on the scientific challenges, so if that’s what you want, maybe you should read it before commenting on this story any further. I can see why they chose to skip that stuff for the movie.

You’re entitled to your opinion. I, and others here and online, disagree with it, and we’re not being paid by Amazon. I don’t know why you keep saying Disney and Deadpool over and over again, especially since those two are very different and this film is very different from either, but some people actually like the film, and it appears to be more people like than dislike. Is that why you’re coming on so strong, because you expected pushback?

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

ceejayoz wrote: post #30
inaros wrote: post #19

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I heard children loved the rock... Now go to IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12042730/reviews/?rating=1&ref_... sort by worst review and you will see the comments and reviews make a lot of sense...If you believe like some of commentators this is a 10/10 movie, you also probably believe these reviews are not manipulated...

> sort by worst review This is about the worst methodology you could possibly use here. > If you believe like some of commentators this is a 10/10 movie, you also probably believe these reviews are not manipulated… 100% of online reviews should be treated as manipulated.

>> This is about the worst methodology you could possibly use here.

By the contrary. It is the absolutely best methodology. I am surprised you cant see why.

You should do the same for hotel reviews or amazon products. Its about the CONTENT and nature of the bad review. The best way to judge a movie, hotel, or product is often to read the negative reviews first, because negative reviews reveal the failure modes. A positive review just usually tells you what worked for someone. A negative review tells you what can go wrong, and whether that problem matters to you.

You should always start with the worst reviews because they reveal the real weaknesses. Then you judge whether the criticism comes from an unreasonable person or from somebody thoughtful and fair. If the negative reviewer is intelligent, specific, and or balanced, that review is often more valuable than ten positive ones, because it shows the actual risks and not just the hype.

Use it for movies, books, hotels and amazon products...

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

throw0101d wrote: post #37
inaros wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard children loved the rock... Now go to IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12042730/reviews/?rating=1&ref_... sort by worst review and you will see the comments and reviews make a lot of sense...If you believe like some of commentators this is a 10/10 movie, you also probably believe these reviews are not manipulated...

> sort by worst review Now go to IMDb again: * https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12042730/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_ra... and look at the score distribution.

That is the kind of metric that got Trump elected....

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

ggambetta wrote: post #17
inaros wrote: post #2

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That's just, like, your opinion, man. I loved the book and I loved the movie.

I do not deny that people enjoy it. I am saying that the film humor, dialogue, and emotional treatment strike me as pitched at a comparatively childish level.... ;-)

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

ceejayoz wrote: post #63
inaros wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you watch the movie? Those reviews are manipulated... Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other? If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling?

> Do you believe in the concept of objectivity? Meaning some movies are Objectively better than others, some Reviews are Objectively better than other? In this context? Absolutely not. One person's favorite movie is another's least. > If I bring a bunch of kids and teens to the movie, and at the end they all cant stop talking about how much they loved the rock, should I give an Oscar to Ryan Gosling? It's OK for a mo…

IMDB has it at a 8.5/10

I am happy we can agree those metrics mean nothing...

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by mrbungie »

inaros wrote: post #60
dahart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those handful of 1-star reviews seem the same as the 1-star reviews on all movies, including all of the good movies you probably liked: “boring”, “overhyped”, “doesn’t live up to the book”, etc.. Are they manipulated? Go ahead and name a movie you like without looking at the reviews first, if you dare, and then let’s check the reviews. I liked the movie and loved the book. Did you read the book? You seeing to be igno…

My problem with the movie is not that it is humorous or accessible. Scifi does not have to be solemn like 2001 or mythic like Dune. The probleme is that reduces a huge premise to a childish emotional register... The premise is an interstellar mission, species level extinction risk, first contact, scientific problem solving. The film frames this through cute banter, soft sentiment, and quips that shrinks the movie sca…

> The premise is an interstellar mission, species level extinction risk, first contact, scientific problem solving. The film frames this through cute banter, soft sentiment, and quips that shrinks the movie scale.

God forbid showing the humane side of both tragedies and big stakes missions in an aesthetically pleasing and humorous way.

> So it treats a genuinely huge science fiction premise in a disney type emotional level. The humor feels adolescent and tonally deflates the stakes. Instead of using first contact, isolation, and extinction level danger to create awe or intellectual depth, it turns them into a cute, reassuring buddy experience.

I'd say that's exactly what makes the movie charming for the "masses" and it's OK if you are not into that, but don't make it sound like it is an absolutely terrible movie just because it does not comply to your definition of a good scifi movie.

Re: My astrophotography in the movie Project Hail Mary

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Post by inaros »

dahart wrote: post #47
inaros wrote: post #43

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The author of the great Astrophotography is not the OP of the HN post. And that is already one starting and possible isolated indicator of astroturfing, ....when the movie related posts got no traction, they went looking for related subjects...

That proves nothing. You are making assumptions. Did you look at the submission history of the poster? HN runs on user-submitted posts. People submit things they find interesting, and things they believe others will find interesting.

>> HN runs on user-submitted posts.

Its about the timing.

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