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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by JollySharp0 »

chuckadams wrote: post #194

What keeps me in the Appleverse is the hardware, and the software that Just Works with the hardware (I find that "Just Works" has been rapidly eroding in general, but naturally it still handles the hardware well). The alternatives are Linux on much worse hardware, or the non-starter that is Windows on anything whatsoever. I'm told ThinkPads are getting to parity and have primo Linux support, but barring accident, my…

Almost any Linux distro will work find with any Thinkpad and has done so for almost two decades now.

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Post by chasil »

Rohansi wrote: post #202
chasil wrote: post #93

I bought a cheap, used iPhone SE3 because I needed to Facetime relatives. I learned quickly that "Find My" was far superior in remote tracking of airtag-equivalents, and switched some of my convertible tags to their network. I flew out of O'Hare last month, and there were advertisements all over the airport announcing that Illinois id/drivers license import into Apple Wallet, so I did it, and that works. Supposedly,…

> I would never, ever trust Google with any of these things. Ever. Why do you trust Apple with them? What guarantees Apple will not do evil?

There are no guarantees, but if I need a digital ID, then this is the best solution.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by TheAtomic »

I wish Nvidia would drop a Linux laptop so we could all have a 3rd option.

I know, this exists in some form or another, eg Dell, but meh.

And I know Jony Ive / Altman are working on something but Altman, uhg.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by JollySharp0 »

chasil wrote: post #93

I bought a cheap, used iPhone SE3 because I needed to Facetime relatives. I learned quickly that "Find My" was far superior in remote tracking of airtag-equivalents, and switched some of my convertible tags to their network. I flew out of O'Hare last month, and there were advertisements all over the airport announcing that Illinois id/drivers license import into Apple Wallet, so I did it, and that works. Supposedly,…

You traded convenience for control. That is how all these big companies lock you in.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by lynndotpy »

an0malous wrote: post #198
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

There's a bizarre trend, especially on HN, of unjustified criticism against Apple. There are so many YC companies committing outright fraud, Palantir is building a surveillance state, a bunch of well known founders and VCs openly promote white supremacist ideology, but you'll never see more vitriol on this forum than someone complaining about the liquid glass UI or app store take rate.

Personally, I gave Apple many thousands of dollars, and then I had updates forced on me by Apple which made every Apple device I own worse.

One can be angry about things which directly and immediately make their life worse while also being angry about the other evils in the world.

This is surely not a trend, I am sure humans around the world throughout history have been able to criticize one thing even while something far worse is happening.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by jmye »

Rohansi wrote: post #202
chasil wrote: post #93

I bought a cheap, used iPhone SE3 because I needed to Facetime relatives. I learned quickly that "Find My" was far superior in remote tracking of airtag-equivalents, and switched some of my convertible tags to their network. I flew out of O'Hare last month, and there were advertisements all over the airport announcing that Illinois id/drivers license import into Apple Wallet, so I did it, and that works. Supposedly,…

> I would never, ever trust Google with any of these things. Ever. Why do you trust Apple with them? What guarantees Apple will not do evil?

Currently, one is a surveillance company that is motivated to abuse my privacy in every possible way, in order to target ads (and, conceivably, Gemini). The other, currently, is a hardware company that's dipped it's toes in advertising and is motivated to sell me devices and services.

If, at some point, they converge, I will trust Apple as little as I trust Google, but it's absurd to pretend they're the same thing, today or to "what if" yourself into knots.

Google is absolutely an evil company, head to toe, that is aligned against you. Trusting them with anything is almost as stupid as trusting Meta.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by JKCalhoun »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

I hope the author reports back in a year. Getting off the Apple train appeals to me, the reality of doing so looks bleak.

Full disclosure: I've been in the Apple ecosystem since System 6, worked as an engineer there for 25 years. But I am as frustrated by many of the decisions Apple has made as many people I see posting.

Liquid glass? This too shall pass.

Locked down ecosystem? I imagine the blowback if they unlocked it and people's devices were suddenly being compromised by malware.

I guess I prefer the frying pan to the fire that I feel awaits me if I jump. As I mentioned though, seeing blog posts after the jump will be interesting.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by gib444 »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #274
dainiusse wrote: post #106

Mate. None of the companies is worth such stress. I feel rage in you. It is just a tool. You choose what works best. That's it. No need to overthink it.

A smartphone is a tool that is all but required for modern life, it gets it's hooks into every detail of your life, and you have very little choice in providers, features, and functions. It makes a lot less sense to not care like this.

What can't you do without a smartphone in the UK or wherever you live? Specifically a smartphone, not just a phone number for SMS + calls.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by KeplerBoy »

embedding-shape wrote: post #134
frizlab wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They didn't start locking things down until the iPhone. They sure have tried since forever though. My uncle complained about Apple for this very reason ~20y ago…

Before the iPhone, what was their attempts at that? I remember using OSX a bunch before the iPhone was public, but never remember any of the ways they tried to lock it down, I might have been too young then.

Getting music on an ipod was always a pain unless you bought the music on itunes or ripped a music CD directly with itunes (yes, that was an actual feature. hard to imagine these days).

No simple drag and drop onto a mounted USB drive like all other mp3 players back in the day. Maybe more of a lock-in attempt instead of lock down, but related imo.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by stephc_int13 »

soapdog wrote: post #271
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

Author here. Thanks for engaging is such gentle way, this is rare these days. Let me address some of your comments and maybe you'll understand my position a bit better even if you don't agree. > 1.Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered inst…

I am in the same situation. French citizen living in the UK. I never owned a credit card and I have no use for it.

I can't pass the age-verification. I am 49. This alone is quite irritating, but the overall developer-hostility of Apple and the quality drift of their software is convincing me to never buy an iOS device again.

And I'll probably not release any software on their platforms either.

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