Apple Just Lost Me • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by izacus » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

daedrdev wrote: post #9

Any system of age verification will fail to satisfy the writer, because it is fundamentally the UK’s fault by requiring such draconian measures. Credit cards don't work ever time, but the other options of using AI or sending your data to a third company who will resell it are also not great. The only other complaint seems to be liquid glass? It really feels strange because Apple feels on the upswing with their new of…

Tapping a UK passport to your phone works just fine for ETA apps and it would work just fine for Apple as well.

The fact that you think American corporation punishing foreign users for their laws is acceptible is sick upon itself.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by bronlund » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

I don't think it's just those three issues. Those are just the three final drops in the bucket.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by gtirloni » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

baal80spam wrote: post #31

dionian wrote: post #8

I like liquid glass. I liked it since the first betas i tried. Am i the only one

At this point I am pretty sure it's the loud vocal minority that hates it. Vast majority is either indifferent or actually likes it (but liking something doesn't sell).

People who like it aren't vocal, agreed. I think this works for every outrage wave we experience online. Something to keep in mind.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by AdamN » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

Pay08 wrote: post #40

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

I struggle to believe that Liquid Glass was one person's fault.

It was probably a cascade of people but the question is whether we all realize Apple was right or if they just implemented it wrong or if it will just take a year or two to get things dialed in (but still prepared for an AR/VR world) and then we forget it ever happened.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by hedora » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

Pay08 wrote: post #33

lynndotpy wrote: post #6

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

You're far overstating the effect it has had.

I think people are using "liquid glass" as a blanket term that includes other changes in iOS 26, like completely breaking message delivery with the world's dumbest spam filter, aggressively waking some people up in the middle of the night, siri somehow getting even worse, breaking the incoming call state machine (again), bluetooth regressions, regressions to their (already poor) UI accessibility, and so on.

Those other things add up and are definitely noticed by non-tech users that don't care that things like the alarm UI are massively regressed.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by izacus » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:54 PM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

Why are you so deeply invested into defending the honor of a massive corporation that's callous to its users? Especially corporation that's supposedly proud of their UX?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by netsharc » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:54 PM UTC

Article says his account is 25 years old, but I guess the laws don't care about such metadata.

But OT: it makes me realize my Yahoo Mail account is turning 30 this year, because in 1997 Yahoo wanted to compete with Hotmail and I thought "Having a @yahoo.com email, that's a very good nerd badge!". Nowadays the ridicule is deserved, and they've silently lost all my mail from 1990s...

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by ApolloFortyNine » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

Any age verification should come with an OAUTH style government run API. The idea being you verify your ID with the government, and the service that required age verification gets back a true or false for does this user meet this age requirement. That way the amount of data shared is kept to a minimum.

The UK, and Brazil who passed a similar law, 'cheated' by just forcing private companies to figure it out.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by pfraze » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

dgxyz wrote: post #42

pfraze wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are aware that the law applies to Linux desktops and will likely be included in a system update soon?

You do realise I am free to modify it or pick a distribution so that isn't the case too?

How long till that’s illegal?

This situation is being treated like a bad business decision. It’s not. It’s a new set of laws. It’s bigger than just Apple.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by izacus » Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

joshgachnang wrote: post #52

lynndotpy wrote: post #6

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

My non-techie friends either barely notice Liquid Glass or go "ooo this is nice!". It has annoyed me on occasion, but I barely notice it any more. Much ado about nothing.

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