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Apple Just Lost Me

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by pixelpoet »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

> Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now

Are you sure you're not apologising for Apple?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by dgxyz »

pfraze wrote: post #36
dgxyz wrote: post #7

We just got fucked by this today. My 22 year old daughter doesn't have a driving license or a credit card but does have a passport and it didn't work. She's now got a kids phone. I haven't tried the 20 year old yet who is in the same situation... They have 5 days to unfuck this or I'm literally rolling out Pixels + Graphene to the family. Exit plan for the Mac is a Linux desktop.

You are aware that the law applies to Linux desktops and will likely be included in a system update soon?

You do realise I am free to modify it or pick a distribution so that isn't the case too?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by AdamN »

Pay08 wrote: post #33
lynndotpy wrote: post #6

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

You're far overstating the effect it has had.

Also most of the stuff people complain about is easily changed in settings (transparency, etc...).

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by pfraze »

jedahan wrote: post #26
pfraze wrote: post #11

Age verification has been put into law across the world over the last year. Apple doesn’t have a choice.

They certainly have more choices than implementing in this manner, and can choose to not implement it as well. Absolving Apple of responsibility gives more than they deserve.

They actually have very few choices, and they had only a few months to get it done. Just like the rest of us.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by gtirloni »

dgxyz wrote: post #7

We just got fucked by this today. My 22 year old daughter doesn't have a driving license or a credit card but does have a passport and it didn't work. She's now got a kids phone. I haven't tried the 20 year old yet who is in the same situation... They have 5 days to unfuck this or I'm literally rolling out Pixels + Graphene to the family. Exit plan for the Mac is a Linux desktop.

Could you emit a virtual credit card for them that you then cancel after the verification is done?

What "unfucking" looks like though? The law is mandated in the UK. What other way of age verification would work better for them?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by raincole »

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score.

UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by amelius »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

Maybe the author was aware of all this, but with "Apple Just Lost Me" they wanted to say that this is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by secondcoming »

daedrdev wrote: post #9

Any system of age verification will fail to satisfy the writer, because it is fundamentally the UK’s fault by requiring such draconian measures. Credit cards don't work ever time, but the other options of using AI or sending your data to a third company who will resell it are also not great. The only other complaint seems to be liquid glass? It really feels strange because Apple feels on the upswing with their new of…

UK, California and Brazil, no?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by joering2 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

> 3. Apple had a bug in their age verification protocol. Again, valid point, but Apple needs to follow UK law.

No they don't. They need to grow balls. They pay hefty tax rates in UK. If they would announce they are leaving UK market in 90 days, I bet you would find enough politicians to change the course of this terrible law.

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