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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by muzani »

yoz-y wrote: post #505
meken wrote: post #163

I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us. After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall…

The problem is that due to the ease these can be made there is also really no reason to make this social. “Why would I look at somebody else’s creations when I can do mine.”

They're different impulses. Some want to consume. Others want to create.

TikTok and social media is a strange mix of both, people posting response videos to everything.

Personally, I've stopped subscribing to Spotify, YT music, etc because the slop from Suno is good enough to replace mainstream music or whatever lofi playlist. It's free, it's good enough, and it's not grating to hear after a few days of that favorite song.

The video slop can well replace TikTok and Reels. Make educational content about your hometown. Explain how to throw an uppercut.

But I guess the desire to create something that others would consume is also different from the desire to simply create.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by aDivineDragones »

platevoltage wrote: post #417
ionwake wrote: post #343

Man I find the HN crowd so cross and fickle sometimes. I think it’s just because when companies get bad rep it affects how people view the products? Im autistic and tend to focus on the tech SORA ( whatever that means) was one of the most astounding demos I’ve probably ever seen ( ChatGPT was more gradual ). The shock and awe of rendered AI video blew my mind. Yes months later everyone can do it and is bored by it an…

The iPhone X's new feature where it approximated you facial expressions on a 3D character using the facial recognition sensors blew my mind as well. It was a party trick. I can't remember the last time I touched it. That's what SORA is, or was.

While Apple use of the tracking was not more than a party trick, the foundational technology they created for this is currently the best low budget tracking solution and heavily used in VTubing (online streamers that use an Avatar with live facial tracking instead of showing their face via webcam)

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by coffeebeqn »

this_user wrote: post #293
small_model wrote: post #158

Not good, seems like they are running out of cash and partners abandoning them. They had no real moat to be fair. Anthropic eating their lunch in enterprise and other players have cashflows from other businesses (XAI, Google)

They wasted their first mover advantage by focussing on what amounts to building toys for consumers like Sora instead of actually useful products that go beyond simple chat bots. I think they are in serious trouble, especially with the size of their cash burn. Their planned IPO could easily turn out to be their WeWork moment where the bottom suddenly falls out on the valuation if they cannot make their operation look…

What happened to AI accelerated novel materials science and medicine? Meh let’s do TikTok slop instead ?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by shevy-java »

Google Graveyard is joined by OpenAI. That's one problem of those big corporations - they eagerly kill off products and projects willy-nilly. It may make businss sense but why the prior promo? Those promos have been a lie, just like the cake was.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by tikotus »

platevoltage wrote: post #442
asnyder wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know the developer who worked on it took pride in the outcome. Hopefully they added some additional characters to keep it fresh.

To be fair, it was really cool. It was also a tech demo with no real practical application.

It was really cool, unlike my phone after doing it for 5 minutes!

There were social games that used it as a feature, and it was fun when it worked, but it had to be disabled soon as it drained the battery so fast.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by camillomiller »

muzani wrote: post #511
yoz-y wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that due to the ease these can be made there is also really no reason to make this social. “Why would I look at somebody else’s creations when I can do mine.”

They're different impulses. Some want to consume. Others want to create. TikTok and social media is a strange mix of both, people posting response videos to everything. Personally, I've stopped subscribing to Spotify, YT music, etc because the slop from Suno is good enough to replace mainstream music or whatever lofi playlist. It's free, it's good enough, and it's not grating to hear after a few days of that favorite…

Some want to consume... content that they don't think they could do in one minute themselves. They want to consume content made by other humans, even if it's still brain-eating algorithmic fodder, but still. Sora proved it quite clearly. These clips had ZERO value.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by the-smug-one »

pjc50 wrote: post #499
elktown wrote: post #490

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This field doesn’t do well on long-term thinking. Even if all this turns out to be a net loss, it will be reinterpreted as a win and just an opportunity for even more of the same solution. There are numerous examples of this, e.g. the OOP craze. Tech is a stock market of ideas and HN is a trading floor. The “line goes up” logic applies - not merit.

Describing OOP as a "craze" is incredibly out of touch. It's been a thing for, what, three decades?

There certainly was an OOP craze, that's not out of touch to talk about.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by camillomiller »

ionwake wrote: post #343

Man I find the HN crowd so cross and fickle sometimes. I think it’s just because when companies get bad rep it affects how people view the products? Im autistic and tend to focus on the tech SORA ( whatever that means) was one of the most astounding demos I’ve probably ever seen ( ChatGPT was more gradual ). The shock and awe of rendered AI video blew my mind. Yes months later everyone can do it and is bored by it an…

"I'm autistic and tend to focus on the tech" is not a justification, and I would advise to stop using it as such. Would you apply the same to killing robots? Hey, the Hyperthrasher 2000 mauls people and shreds them to pieces, but it's the most impressive TECH demo I've ever seen!

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by bit1993 »

meken wrote: post #163

I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us. After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall…

I thinks its the same reason why chess tournaments, where two AIs play against each other are not as popular, compared to when two humans play each other. Maybe its because humans generally compare themselves to other humans and that's part of how they value.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by vortegne »

k3k3 wrote: post #283
AkelaA wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI art as a whole has just become the new clipart. The fact that it’s effortless to produce just means that it has no real artistic value, and by using it all you’re signifying to people is that you’re too cheap to pay someone to create real art. It’s quickly become the modern day equivalent of Comic Sans, WordArt, and the default clipart illustrations included in Word ‘98.

I dunno about you... but it boggles my mind how many others can't see it. Perhaps most people are absolutely devoid of any taste of what makes art? I dont know.

Techbros, largely, never had any taste to begin with. They just also don't have the skills/will to make any art, so they could hide their lack of taste for a long time.

That said, there are still people with exceptional aesthetic sensibilities in the tech field, obviously. They're just largely not in this space.

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