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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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post #69

“What you made with Sora mattered”. Idk why that sentence irks me so much. Perhaps because the “how” is bit vague. I like to think that what I made in the toilet this morning also mattered.

It’s “Our Incredible Journey” for a new generation, this time with less optimism and more post-capitalist “enjoy your job while you still have it.”

I find myself increasingly nostalgic for the Clinton era. I am not at all sure I will enjoy the version of fuckedcompany that gets vibe coded when this bubble pops.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#163
I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us.

After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall of Sora.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#164
post #48

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It's not because of the bubble. There is literally no advantage to generating slop videos. It looks cool for a while but no audience is going to consume such videos. Any platform which focusses on AI generated videos is doomed.

My girlfriend keeps sending me AI generated tiktoks, despite me complaining about them. To be fair, I've seen literally nothing on tiktok that isn't garbage, so the competition is pretty low. Your point "It looks cool for a while" might have some merit - I think I've seen less and less interest in these things over the last year which fits the news articles I've seen mentioning people got bored of using Sora pretty q…

I didn't compare it with tiktok, because on tiktok majority of the content is slop even if it is human generated, so the bar is pretty low.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#165
post #69

“What you made with Sora mattered”. Idk why that sentence irks me so much. Perhaps because the “how” is bit vague. I like to think that what I made in the toilet this morning also mattered.

Or perhaps a more appropriate analogy, its sounds like the sycophantic language of most of these LLM systems.

Which makes me wonder whether these companies actually dogfood their own tools with this sort of stuff? Was this announcement written by ChatGPT? Honestly, I would find either answer to be a little concerning in its own way. It's either vaguely insulting to their customers or showing a lack of faith in their own product.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#166
post #39

It feels like the bubble is starting to pop. A crisis of confidence is not something OAI can afford at this stage...

I wonder if Anthropic has overtaken them in revenue, seems like more people would pay for Claude code than to chat with ChatGTP. Would be good to see Codex vs Claude Code income.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#167
post #65

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Software engineers have spent the last 40 years automating away other people's jobs. The discomfort only seems to start when the automation points inward.

Haven't mechanical engineers done the same thing (steam engines, trains,...)? The whole applied science is about using knowledge to remove tediousness (and now adding it back). A lot of jobs have been removed.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#168

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Every flop used for entertainment is opportunity cost. Compute is far more valuable used internally to create AGI than creating parody videos.

AGI is a marketing term used to encourage continued investment in an industry that is not even close to breaking even commensurate with its investment. Even so, this is a false dichotomy: scaling is clearly not a path on its own to superintelligence. OpenAI developed Sora largely because the amount of revenue they need to produce any return on investment is massive and not clear whatsoever. And in fact, I don't even…

what order of magnitude of compute do you think would be needed for AGI? 100 billion? 1 trillion?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#169
post #63

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> The thing that didn't make sense with this app: who would ever want to scroll only AI generated videos over a combined feed? It was legitimately fun until the IP guardrails came up and we couldn't do anything with the characters and culture we know. If you look at US top videos on YouTube any given day, 40-60% of the videos are IP-based. Star Wars, Nintendo, Marvel, music, etc.

>If you look at US top videos on YouTube any given day, 40-60% of the videos are IP-based. Star Wars, Nintendo, Marvel, music, etc. Where can I get this data?

Hm, turns out they removed these last year:

https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/youtube-trending-page-...

Bummer. It used to be at:

https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending

So last year, these were the top videos:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250324155132/https://www.youtu...

There's this, but it's nowhere near as good as seeing the actual videos:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?gprop=youtube

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