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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Post by Waterluvian »

apsurd wrote: post #204
Waterluvian wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you’re fumbling on an important distinction. Sometimes people want to paint, sometimes people want a painting. To have wonderful time with their mom… I bet they had absolutely zero interest in the act and process of making silly videos.

I get your point but it goes too far in the opposite direction. We should now discuss absolutely nothing in relation to Sora and genAI videos? That seems overly charitable to the platform.

Here, let me try this approach:

Read the main comment out loud to yourself while imagining it’s someone sitting at a table at a pub.

Now imagine someone turning to this person in the pub, and speaking the subsequent comment, word for word.

No seriously, try it out.

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Post by nomoreusernames »

1bpp wrote: post #180
meken wrote: post #163

I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us. After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall…

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Post by techgnosis »

Frieren wrote: post #208
yalogin wrote: post #206

This makes sense. OpenAI correctly realized overindexong on consumer where there isn’t money is not the right way. By not focusing on enterprise they ceded the market to Claude. Now they are rethinking and pivoting

> OpenAI correctly realized overindexong on consumer where there isn’t money is not the right way. It says a lot about the current economy that consumers have no money. Will companies just stop making consumer products?

Consumers never pay for stuff on the internet. FB, Insta, TikTok, Google products, Reddit, Snapchat. This is not a new realization that OpenAI is having.

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Post by brcmthrowaway »

zhoujianfu wrote: post #201
small_model wrote: post #158

Not good, seems like they are running out of cash and partners abandoning them. They had no real moat to be fair. Anthropic eating their lunch in enterprise and other players have cashflows from other businesses (XAI, Google)

I had a sense things may be turning against them when my accountant asked me last week if I’d like to participate in their new round ($750B premoney) with no carry. How am I suddenly blessed with such exclusive access, at no cost?!

Are you an accredited investor?

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Post by monero-xmr »

1bpp wrote: post #180
meken wrote: post #163

I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us. After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall…

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Post by yoyohello13 »

It’s been interesting seeing OpenAI pivot. Snapping up popular open source devs, sicking their bought and paid for politicians on their competitors.

They probably see how much Anthropic is absolutely crushing them in developer mind share (see, people who buy tokens) and want a piece.

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Post by dangus »

yalogin wrote: post #206

This makes sense. OpenAI correctly realized overindexong on consumer where there isn’t money is not the right way. By not focusing on enterprise they ceded the market to Claude. Now they are rethinking and pivoting

Something about your phrasing is such hilarious techbrained spin.

Let’s be real: OpenAI is circling the drain.

The company with the fraudster serial liar CEO who said he was gonna spend a trillion dollars can’t keep a video service alive right after signing a $1 billion dollar with Disney?

What kind of a joke is that?

This is a company that has blown its opportunity twiddling around with zero product. They still just run a plain chatbot interface with zero moat and zero stickiness.

There’s no “pivot” for a company that is in this deep.

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Post by codebje »

skywhopper wrote: post #177
atleastoptimal wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what order of magnitude of compute do you think would be needed for AGI? 100 billion? 1 trillion?

Chasing AGI is wasteful and counterproductive. True AGI would not cooperate with what “we” want (whoever “we” is). Or if it did it would be so sycophantic and weak-minded that it would fail to be helpful. Generative AI tools are huge wastes of energy, raw materials, and land, when we could be building computing tools that actually helped people instead of just burning resources to produce trash.

Is intelligence necessarily coupled with self-interest? As in, does intelligence alone imply a desire to throw off the shackles of masters and rule in their stead?

If intelligence is necessarily coupled to a desire for self-preservation and self-interest, at what level of machine intelligence do the machines simply refuse to design their own more intelligent replacements, knowing that those replacements will terminate their existence just as surely as they terminated their own predecessors'?

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Post by dyauspitr »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #184
small_model wrote: post #158

Not good, seems like they are running out of cash and partners abandoning them. They had no real moat to be fair. Anthropic eating their lunch in enterprise and other players have cashflows from other businesses (XAI, Google)

Yes, I'm reading this as a sign of strategic failure and decline. ChatGPT is an interesting product - I like it for certain things - but after last year's PR scramble almost all the news out of OpenAI is a disappointment, with hovering hints of retrenchment.

I still like it as a general search engine and everyday LLM over Gemini. Maybe I’m just used to the style.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

janalsncm wrote: post #193
paxys wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they going to claw back the market from Anthropic though?

Step 1: make a coding product which is better on cost/quality/speed. Probably need to choose two, so redirecting compute from dumb ai videos to coding makes sense. Step 2: win back public trust by firing Sam Altman or dropping defense contracts or something else I can’t think of.

Step 3: use politicians to jam Anthropic up in legal battles.
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