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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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This will happen with most offerings made by the major AI labs. Inference is expensive, and the closer they get to AGI, the higher the opportunity to use compute for inference rather than training, especially if it’s for making what is essentially entertainment that many people hate on principle.

Indeed. But they won't get to "AGI", because that goal isn't even remotely defined. A "human-level" intelligence implies a large number of properties that cannot exist inside an inference machine. Dreams, for example, might be considered to be a part of "human-level" intelligence. Will the machine dream? What happens if you turn a "human-level" intelligence off? Did you kill someone? AGI is a pipe dream - and moreove…

agi just means a machine, system or whatever that can do anything as least as well as a human. The details dont matter as much as its ability to match humans in everything they are paid money to do.

And obviously if such a system existed, the benefits (and risks) would be enormous, though the risks are smaller if you control it vs someone else, which is why every company is racing towards it.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#114

Notably, this primer on Sora safeguards was published only yesterday: https://openai.com/index/creating-with-sora-safely/ Not a great look that either the teams responsible for Sora didn't know this was coming or the decision was so brash that things changed overnight.

i guess the disney deal falling through was the impetus rather than vice versa

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much for “replacing VFX artists”. It’s not necessarily a harbinger of doom for the AI industry, but this indicates that the most fervent AI boosters were dead wrong.

> but this indicates that the most fervent AI boosters were dead wrong. I dont do design, or make videos, or ask ai for legal advice, or medical advice cause I lack the skill and understanding of these fields. Dunning Kruger still applies... There is interesting "AI" content out there, clearly the person(s) behind it put some thought into it and had a vision.

True, I did try to make some useful 1 minute videos, and found it really difficult to arrive at a finished product

Sure, I can write the screenplay and Veo will generate it for me. But I don't have experience in video creation/production , so it is difficult for me to write good prompts which generate engaging video

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#116
post #99

I thought AI video was the future? Now the biggest AI company in the world is straight up shutting their service down because it's too expensive? Simply a disaster for OpenAI and the industry as a whole.

They're shutting down Sora, not AI-generated video. From the article: "OpenAI […] is not getting out of the AI video business (AI video is one of many tools that can take form in the ChatGPT app), of course, but it appears the standalone Sora app will be a casualty of its evolving ambitions."

Is it still accessible in any of their apps, though? I don’t see it in ChatGPT.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#117

I thought AI video was the future? Now the biggest AI company in the world is straight up shutting their service down because it's too expensive? Simply a disaster for OpenAI and the industry as a whole.

Every flop used for entertainment is opportunity cost. Compute is far more valuable used internally to create AGI than creating parody videos.

Wasn't video generation one of their big stepping stones towards AGI? "Simulating worlds", reasoning about physics and real world interactions and all that?

Or are they still doing that behind the scenes and just decided that offering it to the public isn't profitable?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#118
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like in several years we’ll have much more capable video generation than Sora was capable of and we won’t look back at all.

If someone doesn't care enough to suck at something (in this case, video creation) then why should we bother consuming their output? We all have our own streams of mental diarrhea already, so there's no need to drink from the tsunami of polished turds.

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Re: Goodbye to Sora

#119
Amusingly, one of the ads on the page for me is a very obviously AI generated image of a man with sciatica. I say very obviously because his hands are on backwards..

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#120

Notably, this primer on Sora safeguards was published only yesterday: https://openai.com/index/creating-with-sora-safely/ Not a great look that either the teams responsible for Sora didn't know this was coming or the decision was so brash that things changed overnight.

i guess the disney deal falling through was the impetus rather than vice versa

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